Tips Aug 17, 2025 18:22

I’m the man in my 50s who previously asked here whether a one-on-one relationship was just a fantasy. Thank you for your answers at the time.

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It’s been three months since I joined, and I’ve met seven women so far. I had planned to consider an adult relationship (intimate) after meeting someone two or three times, but in the end, I never invited anyone. Then I met a truly wonderful woman recently. We’ve met six times over the past few weeks, and things have progressed to an adult relationship (intimate). She seems to prefer a transactional relationship, and I’m trying to keep my feelings in check, but as we’ve spent more enjoyable time together, I’ve started to develop something like romantic feelings. However, a few things have been bothering me: 1. She has two phones 2. It takes her two or three days to read and reply to messages 3. Her replies are very businesslike 4. She can’t meet on weekends 5. She’s a Type C 6. She’s been a member for eight years 7. She’s in her late 30s Of course, I understand that only she knows the truth, but I can’t help overthinking it. I feel like I’m suffering from a mild case of lovesickness, so I decided to write here. I’d appreciate your thoughts on the following: A. Are characteristics like ①–⑦ common in this world? B. Or should I assume that she’s seeing other people or has a boyfriend? C. What can I do to maintain a more transactional mindset? Sorry for the long post. I’d be grateful to hear about your experiences and opinions.
👤 Asked by Guest 👨GenderMale 🎂 50s 👑 Universe male member
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Fuu
🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
Yes! It’s almost pure fantasy (though it does happen occasionally). It’s like going to a matchmaking agency and saying, “I want to sleep around as much as possible.” It’s difficult because the purpose is completely different. (You might wonder if some people do sleep around through matchmaking agencies too, but regular people can’t exactly follow their example, lol.) A. Are characteristics like ①–⑦ considered normal in this world? B. Or should I assume she has other people she’s seeing or a boyfriend? Yes! She’s an experienced woman who has carefully laid the groundwork to keep you from falling seriously for her. I’ve been involved with women like that several times myself. At the end of the day, papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) is an arrangement involving money. If you want to fall seriously in love, you should look for a real girlfriend. You’re simply operating in a different field. This is a place for papa-katsu. It would be perfectly normal to assume that she probably has a papa (a male supporter) who’s even more generous (well-paying) than the questioner—someone who might give her an apartment—as well as several other papas, a boyfriend, and perhaps a fuck buddy or two. That’s just the kind of place this is. As long as she isn’t bound by society’s pointless conventions, is attractive and experienced at handling men, and has the intelligence and cunning to make the most of those qualities, she can essentially treat herself like a business and specialize in making money and enjoying the benefits, just as if it were a job. C. What can I do to maintain a transactional mindset? Since you’re already registered with a club, I assume you have a certain amount of money to spare. I think you should make lots of offers and date multiple women. The key is simply to spread your feelings around instead of focusing them all on one person. Even if you convince yourself that this particular woman is wonderful, someone even better will naturally come along. Here, your feelings can easily be overwritten because there are so many registered women, which means there are plenty of possibilities and choices.
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ダイ
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
You’re deliberately offering to women like that, aren’t you? If you manage to find a woman with eight years of papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) experience, of course it’s become her profession. Women like that probably carry two phones as a matter of course. Even if they only have one phone, there’s a good chance their LINE account name is just a single letter or an emoji. That said: A: It depends on the woman. B: Of course there are others. C: Think of sex as a sport.
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As others have already said… A. I don’t think there are many people who fit all of those criteria. Among the people I’ve met, I’d estimate that only around 5–10% use two phones. B. I think there are plenty. C. The following sentence caught my attention. This isn’t a sales pitch, but why not make a few more offers and meet a variety of people? → It’s been three months since I joined, and I’ve met seven people so far. I thought I’d consider an adult relationship (intimate) after meeting someone two or three times, but in the end, I haven’t invited anyone.
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マックさん
🏅 日没を遅らせる唯一の方法は日没に向かって走り続けることだ
名古屋支店登録で、男性会員としての登録名もマックさんです。コラム多数書いてますのでよろしければご参照ください。20代の細身女性が好みで逆オファーには前向きです。経験無いまたは少ない方大歓迎。
Age: 60s 👨 Male Universe member
Since it was Obon and I’m getting older, I tried spending about five days without making any plans with girls. But by around the third day, I was getting morning erections and could think of nothing but penetration. The day before yesterday, with the first girl I’d seen in five days, I ejaculated four times in total—twice at night, once after midnight, and once in the morning. Even she was stunned by how energetic I was. She didn’t seem bothered at all; if anything, she looked pleased. Yesterday, I did it once with another girl during the day and twice last night. It’s 6 a.m. now, but I’m getting worked up again, so I’m about to penetrate and ejaculate for the third time from behind while the girl sleeping beside me breathes peacefully. What’s going on with my body? I thought that if I took five days off and naturally toned things down, it might be time to call it quits. But the opposite happened. I’m still drowning in sin. I don’t think I’ll be reaching enlightenment anytime soon. Every questioner probably has their own karma, so let others be others and yourself be yourself. It’s best to face your own karma naturally, in your own way. I’m starting to feel like most questions could be answered with that one sentence above. Don’t overcomplicate things. Find a pleasurable vagina and ejaculate as much as you can. That way, you’ll feel better without thinking about love or romance. Return to your origins as a living creature.
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横断歩道
🏅 デート開拓者
ユニバース5年目。女性とはいろいろな商業施設に行ってデートしています。
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
A. Are traits like ①–⑦ considered normal in this world? If she’s been a member for eight years, she must be quite experienced. I wouldn’t say it’s the norm, but it’s fairly common. B. Should I assume she has other people she’s seeing, or a boyfriend? You should assume she always does. You have her to yourself during the time you spend together, so isn’t that enough? C. How can I maintain the right transactional mindset? Try making offers to other women, going to hostess clubs, and enjoying yourself in various ways. If that still doesn’t work, throwing yourself into it and risking total rejection might be a valuable experience too.
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負け男
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
>1. She has two phones There’s one among my monthly arrangements who does—she carries two phones. She might work in the nightlife industry, but some women with regular day jobs have two phones as well. Mine has a day job and still carries two phones. She’s unbelievably beautiful. >2. It takes her two or three days to read and reply to messages That’s normal. One of the women I’m closest to sometimes takes a week just to read my messages, but I’m still the only one she’s seeing. My impression is that fewer women reply the same day than you might think. >3. Her replies are very businesslike Some women just aren’t good at using LINE. Some are businesslike, too. But if you have fun together in person, isn’t that all that matters? >4. She can’t meet on weekends She might be married, or maybe she’s the type who wants to switch off on weekends. The woman I’m closest to has a job that mainly requires her to work weekends, so I’ve never been able to see her on one. >5. Type C I’m not comfortable with Type C, so I’d hesitate to make an offer. (Not much of an answer, I know.) >6. She’s been a member for eight years >7. She’s in her late 30s If she’s in her late 30s, has been a member for eight years, and is still in demand, she must be an exceptionally wonderful woman. I’d love to meet her. If she’s in her late 30s, Type C, and has been a member for eight years, it might be possible to identify her. Could someone from the other respondents play detective and figure out who she is? m(__)m ■In summary You’re lucky to have met such an amazing woman that you’ve fallen in love with her. I’m jealous. And regardless of whether she’s a PJ, a sex worker, or a girls’ bar hostess, people can fall in love no matter who they’re seeing. So please ignore answers from me and the others if you want, and just enjoy yourselves.
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🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe staff
> A. Are characteristics like ①–⑦ normal in this world? 1. She carries two phones I’m not sure whether it’s common, but there are quite a few people who carry two phones. 2. It takes her two or three days to read and reply to messages I think it simply means you’re that low on her list of priorities. If you want her to prioritize you more, you probably need to make her feel that she doesn’t want to lose you—for example, by increasing her allowance. 3. Her replies are businesslike If you’re meeting as part of a transactional relationship, that seems pretty normal. 4. She can’t meet on weekends I think that’s normal for some people. 5. Type C There’s no such thing as a “normal” type. Everyone is different. 6. She’s been a member for eight years I think that probably means she’s popular. 7. She’s in her late 30s If she joined the dating club eight years ago, she would have joined in her late 20s to early 30s, so that seems pretty normal. B. Or should I assume she is seeing other people or has a boyfriend? Since you met through a dating club, you should assume there are other people. If you want to have her exclusively, I think you’d need to offer an allowance of at least ¥1 million a month. However, if she wants to meet various people, you’ll need to offer something appealing besides money. C. How can I maintain the right mindset and keep things transactional? The solution is to see other women at the same time. Your thinking gets messed up because you’re only seeing one woman.
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カズ
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I think it would be presumptuous to speak for the entire world of papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), so I’ll speak only from what I’ve observed. I don’t have any particular thoughts on points 5–7, but: 1. I think having two phones is a minority practice. 2. Some people are simply careless and let unread messages pile up. Since I’m usually waiting for the other person to invite me, I’ve never met anyone who took two or three days to reply. If someone did take that long, I’d assume they had no intention of building a relationship with me, and I probably wouldn’t bother responding either. 3. When the relationship is still new, you could say the interaction is somewhat businesslike. In fact, if someone wasn’t like that after only meeting a few times, I’d think they had an unusual sense of personal distance. 4. I meet women who work, so we often see each other on weekends. I assume they have boyfriends or other men they’re seeing. I don’t know whether you’re married or single, but what do you mean by saying that you can’t maintain a transactional mindset even after giving her an allowance? If you don’t want a transactional relationship and want someone to introduce you to a woman, I think you’d be better off using a matchmaking service. Personally, I think even meeting someone with marriage in mind is a kind of transactional relationship, though.
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シアトル
🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
1. She has two phones—one for private use and one for papa-katsu. Women who use KakaoTalk, etc. are almost always seeing multiple men. 2. It takes her two days to reply. Her LINE inbox is constantly sitting at 300 unread messages or more. 3. If ten old men are all sending her random small talk, things become impossible to manage. It’s an indirect way of telling you not to message her. 4. On weekends, she’s either having free unprotected sex with her handsome boyfriend as a change of pace, or she’s married. 5. She might be a professional who does papa-katsu full-time. 6. She may have saved up tens of millions—or even hundreds of millions—of yen. 7. She’s probably beautiful, and good in bed too. If you’ve fallen for her, there are probably ten other men who are also obsessed with her. I once met a popular platinum-tier woman in her 30s at a meetup, and she had dozens of offers. A. If a woman is like the one described above, I’d run the other way instantly. Not all women are like that. B. Seriously assume she has at least ten other men. That’s how attractive she is. C. If you can give her around 30 million yen a year, you might become her number one—or spend even more and have her exclusively. If not, be grateful that a beautiful woman who’s out of your league is still willing to see you, even if you’re only number ten. Thank you, Universe Club. Popular girls may carry STIs, so get tested from time to time.
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