What’s the going rate for the allowance if we just meet for tea or a meal the first time? Including transportation expenses, what would the usual total be?

Rather than focusing on the going rate, you can either be upfront about how much you want or see what they offer first. Since it falls somewhere between adult entertainment and dating or marriage, I think either approach is fine. It can be anything from a little spending money to a substantial amount. There are no obligations, quotas, or anyone getting angry at you, and I think it’s a world where any style can work, depending on the two people involved. You can take the adult-entertainment approach and clearly set an hourly rate, or take the dating approach and let the money come naturally afterward.

Since 安全地帯さん has already analyzed the going rates from a feng shui perspective, here’s my take based on paid drinking dates. Looking at the advertisements for paid drinking dates, one example of a woman who might be considered “Black” lists her rate as ¥30,000 per hour. It says she worked 78 hours in one week and earned ¥2.34 million. So, if you simply drink together, don’t go to a hotel, and spend four hours on a date, that would come to ¥120,000. For a woman who might be considered “Platinum,” the advertised rate is ¥15,000 per hour. It says she worked 16 hours in one week and earned ¥240,000. That would mean ¥60,000 for a four-hour date where you only drink together and don’t go to a hotel. With that in mind, if the person asking the question is assuming they’ll go to a hotel with their partner, it’s only natural to think the going rate would be higher than that. For going to a hotel, I think roughly three times the rate for simply drinking together is standard. So the hourly rate would be around ¥45,000–¥90,000. If we assume the arrangement lasts about two hours, the going allowance would be: - Platinum woman: ¥90,000 - Black woman: ¥180,000 Something like that. Huh? Does Universe usually charge ¥50,000? At that rate, women will stop coming too. Surely they’re talking about Gold or Standard women. Or am I wrong? If so, is Universe going to be okay...?

For reference: At a hostess club, for two hours: - Casual venues: ¥15,000 or less - Standard venues: ¥15,000–¥30,000 - Upscale venues: ¥30,000–¥50,000 - Luxury venues: ¥50,000 or more For adult entertainment venues, for two hours: - Casual venues: ¥30,000 or less - Standard venues: ¥30,000–¥60,000 - Upscale venues: ¥60,000–¥100,000 - Luxury venues: ¥100,000 or more That’s about how much men spend. How much do women receive? Adult entertainment venues and dating clubs are different, but I think the amount men pay is fairly similar.

At Universe Club, the money given to the woman for the initial tea or dinner setup date is called transportation expenses. Their rules specify ¥5,000–¥10,000. Generally, no separate allowance is given at this stage, so the total is usually around ¥5,000–¥10,000. There’s no standard rate for any additional allowance. With some people saying 3, 5, 7, 10, or even more, it’s hard to say there’s any set market rate. That said, I hear 5 is the most common amount. https://universe-club.jp/newsroom/123220/ Even when I suspect it’s a post from the same person as usual, I try to give a general answer if the question itself is general.