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Mar 5, 2025 18:28
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I’m of average build and height, and I consider myself slightly above average in looks.
I recently received an offer. If we hit it off and end up going to a hotel, what would the going allowance be for someone my age?
This is my first time negotiating, so I’d at least like to know the going rate.
Also, whether transportation costs are included in the allowance—is that up to the man?
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🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
You can find most of the information by searching on Google, so I think it would be helpful to use that as a reference.
Also, there may not be any offers next time. If you want to do papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), I suggest discussing it with the man and adjusting to his expectations.
The initial discussion is the most important, so if the allowance feels too low, I think it’s fine to tell him you’d like a little more...
🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I think it’s 1 for transportation, plus 4, for a total of 5. That’s how I’d do it.
I wouldn’t change the amount based on age.
If they’re not satisfied, there simply won’t be a second meeting.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
> Since this is my first time negotiating, I’d at least like to know the going rate…
There may or may not be a going rate—it’s extremely vague. So when I see questions like this, I usually answer that there is no set market rate.
If you won’t agree to anything less than ¥100,000, then things can only move forward with you if the allowance is ¥100,000.
No matter how much a man insists on “the going rate,” you can simply ask, “The going rate? Which market are you talking about—the stock market?” You’re clearly not on the same page.
What matters is how much allowance you would feel comfortable with and wouldn’t regret accepting.
Rather than agreeing to an allowance you’re not satisfied with, I think it would be emotionally easier to simply part ways.
That said, if it’s difficult for you when the other person says your amount is above the going rate, then you can just accept the amount they offer—even if it’s below the going rate.
That way, you won’t have to hurt yourself over pointless negotiations. Of course, in that case, you’ll need to decide based on whether he’s a good person, and it may be wise to make it clear that you absolutely won’t accept having no allowance at all.
It’s not the going rate that matters, but whether you yourself are satisfied.
> Does whether transportation expenses are included in the allowance depend on the man?
The club has repeatedly told men to pay transportation expenses upfront. Since they now explain this when men join, there should hardly be any men left claiming that they were told they could pay afterward because they joined years ago.
Even so, there still seem to be men who pay only at the end.
Men who can’t follow such basic club rules are quite likely to be secretly filming you or breaking other rules as well, so I think it’s best not to continue seeing them.
So, if it’s the first date arranged through the club, you should receive your transportation expenses when you meet for dinner. In that case, transportation expenses should not be included in the allowance.
However, for men who have been with the club for a long time, paying transportation expenses at the meal has become merely “a request from the club,” because the rules were changed partway through. (Though it’s been over five years, so that excuse is rather questionable.)
As long as they’re with the club, I think it’s only natural to honor the club’s requests. But apparently some men lack that common sense, so if that’s the case, you should just give up on him.
You should also stop seeing him in the future. He’s probably breaking all sorts of rules, such as secretly filming you or driving under the influence, and I think he’s dangerous.
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I also feel that rates have been dropping quite a bit lately. Even attractive women who used to receive five-figure allowances seem to be accepting offers 20–30% lower, and the level of interest in an allowance like mine has surprisingly increased compared with before.
The fact that women in their early 20s make up nearly half the market also means there are quite a few men who won’t make offers to anyone over 24 or 25. Men who give allowances to women in their 40s or older are a very small minority, and you should be prepared for the possibility that they may be quite elderly. Otherwise, consider it lucky if you find one.
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’d say around ¥30,000–¥40,000 including transportation. If you can get ¥50,000 including transportation, consider yourself lucky.
It’s a tough market. Even if you’re exceptionally attractive, you’re very unlikely to get ¥100,000 at 40. At best, probably ¥60,000 or ¥70,000.
For your mindset, it’s better to think, “I’m lucky if I get an offer,” or “I’m lucky if I get ¥30,000.” If you end up getting ¥40,000 or ¥50,000, you can think, “Yes!♡” That way, it won’t wear you down mentally.
By the way, one of my monthly partners is a 20-year-old college student. I believe she was in the platinum class with premium pricing, but recently she received an offer of “¥30,000 for two rounds.”
She said she turned it down, of course.
That’s how much the market has collapsed. I guess a huge number of app users have entered the scene.
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Whether transportation costs are included depends on the man.
I don’t make many offers to women in Type C arrangements, but in my case, I pay transportation separately only for the first meeting.
I won’t go into detail here, but there have been plenty of similar questions in the past. If you really want to know what allowances others receive, try searching the site.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
There’s really no standard rate.
Personally, I simply decide whether I want to meet her enough to offer the pay-per-meeting amount I have in mind. It’s not based on her age, appearance, or relationship type.
At Universe Club, the money given to a woman at the first meeting is called transportation expenses. Whether transportation is included in the allowance for subsequent dates is up to the man, but I think it usually is.
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
It’s best not to worry about the going rate.
It’s generally understood that transportation costs are included in the allowance.
Even if you receive lots of offers, shouldn’t you just consider whether you’re satisfied with the allowance?
If you expect too much, you’ll be more disappointed when things turn out to be less appealing than you hoped.
If you prepare yourself for the worst-case scenario, you’ll be twice as happy when things turn out a little better.