Judging from the publicly available feedback, it seems like a lot of men assume that Relationship Type C means they have a chance.
As others have said, it’s okay to turn them down.
With Type C, things may progress that same day if you hit it off, so you can pretty much expect an approach during the first meeting. If you don’t feel confident turning down a male member who pressures you that day when you’re not feeling it, you may be better off choosing Type B2.
With B2, the terms specify dinner only on the first day, so you can keep things vague and simply stop responding if you don’t hit it off.
Your offers may decrease a little if you choose B2, but there’s no need to choose Type C at the cost of wearing yourself out.
This is just my personal opinion, but I think true beginners should choose B2, even if they feel capable of making a judgment on the first day.
> If I register as Type C, doesn’t it essentially become like prostitution?
Both men and women should receive a proper explanation of the dating types when they join, but it seems there’s been some misunderstanding.
First and foremost, regardless of the dating type, both men and women have the right to decline anything after the meal. Since this is consensual dating, that should go without saying.
Universe arranges the meal, so you can’t cancel or refuse the meal arranged by the club—that’s the rule. But anything after the meal is part of consensual dating, so you’re free to decline. It’s only natural.
With that in mind, Type C says:
“If both parties hit it off, the relationship may develop further from the very first day.”
I don’t know how they explain it to members these days, but in the past, they said the probability was around 50%.
In other words, you won’t know what happens after the meal until you actually ask.
There’s also Type D, which is more proactive than Type C. So it might be reasonable to assume that a woman registered as Type D may want to continue things after the meal.
But thinking that things will naturally progress after the meal just because she’s Type C is a misunderstanding on the man’s part.
Women, please feel free to turn men down if you’re not interested.
It becomes what’s called “dating-type fraud” when the way someone declines seems strange—for example, when she appears to turn everyone down every time.
The club generally knows what happened with that woman and other men as well. So if similar reports come in from other men, it’s easy to conclude that she has selected the wrong dating type.
On the other hand, if she turns down about half of her dates, that’s perfectly normal. For example, going on six dates and declining three of them is normal.
Besides, if you assume Type C means that, then what exactly is Type D for?
To prevent men from saying they’ve forgotten the explanation they received when joining, the member page also includes an explanation of the dating types:
“[...] Dates intended solely for sex are strictly prohibited. For that reason, the club cannot confirm or require that a woman be willing to become intimate on a first date. If either a male or female member files a complaint, the club may refuse to provide services to that member in the future.”
So if a man tries to take you straight to a love hotel without even discussing the terms, or says something like, “I booked an expensive room at a city hotel, so you have to come,” please contact the club.
The man chose to book the hotel based on his own assumptions. In other words, it could also be your chance to ask for a higher allowance—something like, “My allowance is usually 100, is that okay?” and so on.
I think it’s fair to respond accordingly to men who try to force things. A gentleman wouldn’t behave that way, so I hope people remember to be considerate of the other person, especially in situations like that.
Also, as mentioned above, if a complaint is filed, the man may be told that he can no longer use the club. That said, they’ll usually make excuses and claim they never said such things, so it often doesn’t result in an immediate expulsion.
As a precaution, if you keep encountering men who lie, discreetly recording the conversation might be helpful. If they lie, you may need to provide the recording to establish what really happened.
And I say this every time, but even if you’re angry, don’t become emotional. Stick to communicating only the facts to the club.
Some staff members tend to side with men, so if your report is emotional, they may start thinking strangely—something like, “There’s no way an important male member of ours would do that,” even though they weren’t there themselves. That can be dangerous.
If you only present the facts, even staff who favor men won’t be able to twist the situation.
> I wasn’t given any chance to refuse.
It’s not really about being given an opening to refuse. If you simply stay where you are and don’t move, it seems unlikely that the man could forcibly drag you away in public.
If he did try to drag you somewhere, someone nearby would probably call the police or report it.
So rather than freezing up and thinking, “There’s no opportunity to refuse,” consider the option of simply not moving from where you are.
The man will probably ask why. And if he leaves by himself, then he’s the one who ended the date, so you should be able to go home.
The best way to decline might be to say something like, “I’m not ready yet today.”
And if the terms are important to you, you could also say:
“What allowance were you thinking? Since it’s different from what I had in mind, our terms don’t work for me, so I’m going home.”
> Do men generally assume that Type C means an adult relationship (intimate) is practically guaranteed on the first date?
Even back when the club explained the odds as roughly 50%, many men still thought it would almost certainly happen.
However, men do get turned down, so I don’t think many actually assume it’s 100%. Some men do brag, saying, “I’m 100%,” but that’s only based on past results, and there may come a time when it’s no longer 100%.
Just remember that you have the right to decline.
Of the four hours as a general guideline, two are for the arranged date, so if you’re comparing them, you should look at the remaining two hours.
Personally, I’ve never been turned down for a relationship by a Type C woman, so I wouldn’t say it’s guaranteed, but I do think there’s a high chance it will develop further.
Since both sides discuss the allowance and an adult relationship on the very first day, that kind of dynamic is probably to be expected.
Once you’ve built a relationship, though, I don’t think it will feel that way at all.
From the man’s perspective, he goes in assuming it’s a done deal—that the woman wants an allowance for an adult relationship—and prepares himself for things to progress that way. He may even be hoping for it.
Because the purpose is clear, even I make sure to discuss the terms of the arrangement properly, so there are no hard feelings later if I decide not to continue unless I’m especially taken with her.
If you also want to develop at least some genuine relationship aspect, then in your case, Type B might be better. With Type C, people tend to assume that the allowance comes first, so if it looks like you won’t be able to build a connection, there may be a higher chance of it becoming an adult-only relationship or ending after just a few meetings.
