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Sep 21, 2024 12:34
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High-end French or sushi restaurants are the first things that come to mind, but she probably goes to places like that all the time.
Where do you usually meet for the first time?
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I think you should stick with your usual approach—how you choose the restaurant and plan the date.
If that doesn’t work, you don’t click, or you feel like you have to put on an act, then I’d take it as a sign that we’re not a good match and end things there.
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I can understand wanting to go to a high-end French restaurant, but with sushi, table manners and such aren’t really much of an issue.
Take her to a sushi restaurant.
That said, when I say she has expensive tastes, I mean she probably expects a higher allowance.
In the extreme, I don’t think there’d be a problem taking her to some ordinary izakaya as long as you offered an allowance of 100,000 yen or so.
Even with women from Premium Black, I’ve never been so overly cautious about choosing a restaurant.
🏅 ラッキーゴールドの探査技師
関西在住で多趣味です。
最近、筋トレにて、体重は減っていないのに、ウエストは減りまくりで、筋肉の増量と体脂肪の減量との両立を実現しております。
スタンダードクラス、ゴールドクラスで磨くと光りそうな方にオファーすることが多いです。
Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
You’re letting the prices the club sets for its own business purposes get to you.
Some women also seem concerned about which class they’re placed in. I can understand women caring about that evaluation, but do men really worry about it beyond simply thinking, “I got charged a lot”?
Since you’re the one paying both the club and the woman, I think you should go wherever you like—whether that’s a standing bar or a high-end French restaurant.
You paid for the club as a convenient system or tool to give you more freedom, so being constrained by the club’s evaluation and ending up less free is completely backward.
🏅 手コキ評論家
入会して8年。いまだ彷徨中です
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
Isn’t it best to keep things simple and be straightforward?
In any case, I choose from restaurants I genuinely enjoy, regardless of the cuisine, and then pick one that costs around ¥20,000.
For me, that rules out sushi restaurants. I usually go for yakitori or Chinese food, followed by one of my favorite bars. Since going to a bar often means we won’t finish within two hours, I add taxi fare as well.
Regardless of the woman’s type, I don’t go to bed with her that day, but we often discuss the allowance at the bar.
Wishing you the best of luck.
横断歩道
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🏅 デート開拓者
ユニバース5年目。女性とはいろいろな商業施設に行ってデートしています。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I always start by asking what the other person would prefer, so a café is the only option for me.
Edit:
For example, even if a woman loves Disney, it’s fun because she goes with someone she’s close to, right? Going with some random older guy she’s meeting for the first time wouldn’t be enjoyable.
The same goes for meals. Once you talk to her, you may find that a woman who cares about her figure and health would actually be happier at a health-conscious set-meal restaurant or a salad place.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I usually choose restaurants that match the woman’s preferred cuisine listed in her profile, with a budget of around ¥5,000–¥10,000 per person.
Even when it comes to premium dating services, I’ve never come across a woman who specifically wanted a full-course meal.
Having a full course every time would be exhausting, so I don’t choose that kind of place for a first meeting.
Personally, I once arranged to meet a woman who described herself as having expensive tastes, but the meeting place was Starbucks. The allowance she asked for was also within the usual range.
I don’t think you need to worry too much about the “sense of money” listed in someone’s profile.
🏅 日没を遅らせる唯一の方法は日没に向かって走り続けることだ
名古屋支店登録で、男性会員としての登録名もマックさんです。コラム多数書いてますのでよろしければご参照ください。20代の細身女性が好みで逆オファーには前向きです。経験無いまたは少ない方大歓迎。
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
If you’re already thinking about arranging the same kind of situation as everyone else for a first meeting with a woman like that, I feel like you’re already starting off at a disadvantage.
The allowance matters, of course, but you also need to make a powerful impression with a presentation that’s anything but ordinary.
I’ve heard stories about papa supporters showing up to first meetings with several secretaries in tow. Or being told, “Please get into the black car parked in front of the station,” only to find that it was a car with the driver’s seat completely separated from the back seat—maybe a Rolls-Royce Phantom?—and being escorted to a luxury hotel while communicating with the man in the driver’s seat by voice alone.
There are VIP rooms you can use if you have more than 500 million yen deposited with a securities firm, so you could hold the first meeting there. You can even have the meal brought in.
Black Premium is probably a serious battle of money and masculine confidence, so if you go in halfheartedly, I think you’ll just get burned and walk away.
First, slap her in the face with a stack of cash, then force her to submit in bed.
She’s probably used to being fawned over, so you should make her think, “How dare he treat me like this?” and bring out her sense of your dominance.
Finishing inside her is a given. If you want to make her submit, you have to move beyond the level of worrying about catching an STI yourself. Getting tested is still a good idea, though.
Saito once explicitly said, “I don’t use condoms.” That may simply be a sexual preference, but I think it’s also a method of making the other person submit.
If she gets pregnant, naturally you should give her a nine-figure congratulatory gift and support her for the rest of her life.
In any case, forget the mindset of paying five or eight each time.
A story I hear fairly often is that, when it’s time to hand over the allowance, the man grabs a handful of ¥10,000 bills from his wallet, doesn’t even count them, and just says, “Here.” It usually comes to around ¥200,000.
Apparently quite a few people do this. They may think, “I must be the only one who hands over money this way,” but it’s not that unusual.
Still, there’s nothing wrong with high-earning salarymen or private-practice doctors making tens of millions of yen a year joining in with the same attitude as going on a tour of Hollywood celebrities’ upscale neighborhoods.
I certainly wouldn’t do it, though. The women I’m attracted to aren’t there, and in the first place, I can’t really tell that much difference between women.
Unless you’re someone like GACKT, who can clearly distinguish between expensive wines, I prefer umeshu sours to wine anyway.
The person asking this question may be thinking, “I’m young and handsome.” But for women in Black Premium, young handsome men are easy enough to meet just by going drinking or partying with similar female friends.
Don’t get carried away just because you’re above average among papa-katsu men. The top student at a bottom-tier school is still below average at an elite school.
In the end, the only thing a papa can compete with is money.
More precisely, it’s the confidence backed by money, along with your ability to command and your personal qualities.
Basically, you have to create an image of yourself as someone who makes women think, “I’ve never met anyone like him before.” At least, that’s how I see it.
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
Even when the other person is top-tier (“do-black”), I sometimes suggest meeting at a family restaurant for the first meeting. Lately, though, I’ve mostly been choosing cafés.
I tried to remember the most expensive place I’ve been to, and I think it was a meat restaurant in Kyoto. Even then, it was probably around ¥20,000 per person. I very rarely make reservations at places that cost over ¥10,000 per person.
I save expensive restaurants for my regulars’ birthdays, Christmas Eve, and occasions like that.
A lot of people completely dismiss meeting at a family restaurant or café, and I honestly wonder what they’re thinking. I’ve never had it go badly.
Just recently, I had a first meeting with a Type B woman at a chain café. We talked for about 40 minutes and then went straight to a hotel.
I don’t think the restaurant matters. Things like looking well-groomed, being good at conversation, and offering an allowance above the going rate are much more important.
If you’ve already won before the battle starts—with good grooming and an above-market allowance, for example—you won’t lose just because you meet at a family restaurant or café. But if you’ve already lost before the battle begins, taking her to a private room at a high-end restaurant probably won’t stop her from turning down an adult relationship (intimate).