I’ve arranged my first date for the beginning of next month.

It depends on the woman. Since the club can’t explicitly state the desired allowance, they use the monthly target amount as a workaround. We can only speculate, but I assume that when the monthly total is low, the pay-per-meeting amount is also on the lower side. For women who have just started papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) and set a high monthly target, the pay-per-meeting amount may also be higher, so I make offers based on that assumption.

I believe they asked about your target monthly allowance during the interview. When I said ¥50,000 would be fine, the staff member was like, “What? Let’s put it at around ¥100,000.” So I don’t think you need to worry about it too much. People who are obsessed with money are never satisfied, so they’ll probably say they want ¥100,000, ¥1,000,000, or even more. Don’t overthink it—try sending out lots of offers.

A woman with a Black rating said she had high financial expectations, so I figured she might ask for 150,000—or even 200,000 yen per meeting. But she asked for 100,000. Then a Gold-rated woman whose profile said she had low financial expectations and a low monthly target told me: “I’d like 30,000 yen for dinner and 100,000 yen for an adult relationship (intimate).” The “financial expectations” and “monthly target” listed in profiles are about as accurate as a weather forecast. For reference, the pay-per-meeting amounts women have quoted to me over the past year have ranged from 50,000 to 150,000 yen. I do get the impression that, after dropping for a while, their requested allowance has been gradually creeping back up.

So far, I don’t remember seeing any strong correlation between the monthly target amount listed on a profile and the pay-per-meeting allowance. To be honest, I don’t even remember the amounts that were written there… Up to now, I’ve asked the women what they wanted and generally agreed to it as is.

Are you looking for a romantic partner, or someone open to an adult relationship (intimate)? For now, I think it’s best to meet someone and get started, then see whether it feels right for you and brings you closer to what you’re looking for. You may find that the club suits you better than expected—or that it doesn’t live up to your expectations. Once you take action, you’ll start to see whether it’s a good fit for you. That will also help you figure out how much money you actually want to spend. I think many women hope to build a good relationship with a partner who gives them an allowance, so you might want to see whether you fit that category as well.

You’re new to this, right? Don’t go in expecting to get everything right from the start. It’s better to gain experience with the mindset that mistakes are how you learn. In my case, I stuck to a pay-per-meeting allowance of 50,000 yen from the beginning. If I remember correctly, Kazu simply agreed to whatever amount the other person asked for. After doing it a few times, you’ll start to get a feel for what works. Rather than analyzing data, don’t be afraid of making mistakes—learn from real-world experience first.

It’s hard to tell whether she’s active 20 times a month or only two or three, so a high monthly support target doesn’t necessarily mean she receives a large amount per meeting. That said, once her monthly support target exceeds ¥500,000, I get the sense that she’s a professional whose main occupation is papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan).

It’s actually quite common for people who list their monthly support as around ¥100,000 and those who list it as around ¥250,000 to ask for the same allowance on a pay-per-meeting basis. There were also several people who said they would adjust their requested allowance depending on the other person’s attitude and behavior, as well as how often they could meet each month. It may be somewhat useful as a reference, but ultimately, there’s a lot you won’t know until you actually meet them. If you’re really curious, you may be able to get a general idea about some of them—not everyone—on PATOLO.

I don’t really understand the idea of reviewing what’s written in a profile after the first meeting has already been arranged. What was the purpose of making the offer in the first place? If you made the offer intending to meet for dinner only, then I can somewhat understand your actions. But if that wasn’t the case, those are things you should have considered before making the offer. > Do you take into account the monthly support target and the allowance for an adult relationship (intimate)? What exactly do you mean by “take into account”? If her monthly target is ¥200,000, do you mean you would pay ¥200,000 each time? Or are you assuming, without asking, that she must be thinking of seeing around ten people and therefore offering ¥20,000 per meeting? Interpreting things in your favor isn’t necessarily wrong, but interpreting them as an amount lower than what the woman had in mind won’t make anyone happy. The basic approach is not to make assumptions on your own, but to casually ask during dinner—perhaps when there’s no one else around—how much allowance she expects. If she says she doesn’t know, I recommend asking again whether an amount you had in mind would be acceptable—for example, ¥100,000 for a Black woman, ¥70,000 for a Platinum woman, or ¥50,000 for a Gold or lower-ranked woman. Of course, some women may want more than the man had in mind but still be unable to say so upfront. If she doesn’t give you a positive response and you can’t find out what she wants, one option is to gradually ask about higher amounts within a range you’re comfortable with. Another option is to offer a slightly higher amount from the start, and if that doesn’t work, simply give up on the adult relationship and part ways after dinner. The worst thing you can do is say the amount is too high or try to negotiate it. In most cases, the negotiation turns into a lecture about how ¥X is a lot of money or whether she understands how hard it is to earn that much. For many people, it stops being a negotiation and becomes nothing more than an unpleasant attempt to put the other person down. So if her desired allowance is higher than what you had in mind, I hope you’ll act like a gentleman and simply accept that it wasn’t meant to be. > If her monthly support target is high, does that mean she also expects a higher allowance? How much would you consider “high”? If you tell us that, I’m sure all the women who register from now on will use that amount. In reality, though, their desired allowance doesn’t work that way. So there’s no connection at all between someone’s monthly target and the allowance they actually want. When staff ask and she says she doesn’t know, they keep pressing her, so she just gives an arbitrary answer. Besides, it’s impossible to convert such an ambiguous concept as “monthly support” into an allowance. Even for someone with dating type C, that monthly support figure might simply be the amount she wants for dinner-only dates. In other words, she may want several times that amount for an adult relationship (intimate). Don’t forget that Universe is fundamentally a service that arranges dinner dates. There’s no way they can list the amount someone wants for an adult relationship!

I haven’t factored that in. For example, if a woman’s monthly support goal is ¥300,000, that doesn’t necessarily mean she’ll ask for 1.5 times the allowance per pay-per-meeting arrangement as a woman whose goal is ¥200,000. Likewise, a woman with a monthly support goal of ¥50,000 doesn’t necessarily ask for one-quarter of what a woman with a ¥200,000 goal does. Adding this after reading Mac’s answer: > In Kazu’s case, if I remember correctly, he simply agreed to whatever amount the other person asked for. That’s right. A few times early on, I did give women exactly what they asked for. Through that trial and error, I developed my own sense of what felt right.