On PATOLO, a woman in her 40s asked for ¥150,000–¥200,000 for a three-day, two-night trip. She has two children, so I thought she was being pretty demanding. Needless to say, I’m not going for that amount.
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For those of you in your 40s with children, what do you think of this sense of money? I can’t accept it myself.
👤Asked byGuest👨GenderMale🎂40s👑Universe male member
So, to start with, you invited a woman in her 40s with two children on a three-day, two-night trip, right? What were you thinking when you invited her?
Is this basically your question?
“The going rate is 50,000 yen, so 100,000 yen would be normal for two nights. But she’s in her 40s and has two kids, so obviously it should be cheaper. And yet when she asked for 150,000–200,000 yen, that’s actually expensive! Ugh, how cheeky! What do you all think? You’ll take my side, right?”
You don’t have to accept if the terms don’t work for you. But I do wonder about badmouthing someone just because the terms didn’t match, when you liked them enough to make an offer and invite them on a three-day, two-night trip in the first place. In general, more women would say they wouldn’t sleep with a man they dislike even for 100 million yen.
Taro
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It’s not really about your sense of money.
I think she’s testing you, wondering, “Is he a papa worth traveling with?”
If that’s the only kind of reaction you can give, you probably aren’t worth it.
It’s me.
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He’s inviting you on a trip out of the blue? You haven’t even met yet, right?
If you’d already met and had an adult relationship (intimate), and he offered that amount, he may really dislike being around you and have set that price so you won’t invite him again.
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Everyone has different values and preferences, so I think it’s up to each woman to say what she wants. Just as you’re free to turn someone down because you can’t accept her terms.
That said, I do question the decision to come here and go on and on about it in the Q&A box. Coming from a male member of Universe in his 40s, I find it rather troubling that you seem unable to show respect for others.
I don’t know what Taro means by 100 million yen, but I think there are plenty of women who would say no even for one million yen.
A woman in her early twenties who had left the adult entertainment industry and was working a regular daytime job once told me about a conversation during her lunch break. They were gossiping about a rather badly behaved coworker who might be doing papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), when a housewife who worked part-time apparently said, “Ugh, even if I got one million yen, I couldn’t do it.”
The young woman then said, “LOL, an old lady saying she couldn’t do it even for one million yen.” But what you’re saying is exactly the same as what that woman in her early twenties said. In some ways, it may be even worse since you’re venting to complete strangers.
Also, I should add that women who have given birth can have their own unique appeal.
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Since you don’t seem to know the basics, let me point this out: when it comes to a woman’s overall appeal—or “battle power,” so to speak—it often peaks around age 40.
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If she’s an unattractive older woman, you simply shouldn’t approach her in the first place.
Unless you’re planning to take a trip with her and her two children—four people in total—it makes no difference whether she has two children or eight.
And if hearing her allowance amount is going to upset you, then you shouldn’t have asked.
Did you actually negotiate the terms? If you didn’t, and merely heard a relatively high opening figure, what does “being demanding” have to do with it?
If she’s attractive enough that you considered asking her out, then her expectations about money may be reasonably justified.
If it wasn’t a match and you turned her down, then that should be the end of it. What more is there to say? Nothing.
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