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May 10, 2024 13:24
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I’m a single, unmarried man in my 40s.
I’ve been seeing a woman in her mid-to-late 30s whom I met through Universe Club. She works for a company.
We meet a few times a month, and I give her an allowance of 100,000 yen per meeting. It’s been almost two years now.
Lately, we spend more time eating out and shopping than at hotels, and we’ve started messaging each other almost every day as well.
Recently, she’s started saying things like, “I want you to marry me,” and I’m beginning to wonder whether I should end the relationship.
At first, I thought she was joking, so I lightly brushed her off by saying something like, “You’d be expensive to marry.” The allowance comes to around 400,000–500,000 yen a month, and I’ve also given her gifts such as brand-name bags.
Even after I turned her down, she’s continued saying things like, “Marry me.”
I feel that getting married would be difficult for me, but she has also said that she wants children. Considering her age, I’m starting to wonder whether it would be insincere to keep dragging things out like this.
That said, I do feel comfortable with her, and among the women I’ve met through this site, she’s the one I can be with most easily and naturally.
I’m torn over whether I should break up with her. I’d really appreciate hearing your opinions.
(By the way, I’m not exactly the most faithful person, and I’m also seeing other women besides her. I’ve even thought about approaching someone else as well.)
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Other
From the wording, it strongly sounds like you have no desire to get married, so I feel like breaking up may be your only option.
If you’re finding the woman annoying, start by reducing how often you see her. Another more drastic approach would be to say, “I’m sorry, but I’ve contracted syphilis. You should get tested too,” subtly implying that you’re a scumbag with other partners. If you do that, I’d say there’s about a 40% chance she’ll come to dislike you.
If you stop seeing her for a while, your feelings will cool off unless you’re exceptionally compatible. So why not say you’re taking time off for syphilis treatment, avoid meeting for a while, and then keep reducing the frequency by claiming you’re feeling unwell or whatever?
Also, since you’re still in your 40s, you probably feel like you’re just barely still popular. But looking at my papas, things seem to change once they hit their 50s.
Especially after 55, I’d say.
No matter how much you try to fight aging, you grow older year by year and start to give off more of an “old guy” vibe. Dating younger women becomes exponentially more difficult.
Aging does add character, but it seems that with each passing year, during sex, you increasingly find yourself thinking, “Huh? It feels like there’s some kind of disconnect between me and these girls… Am I only attractive because of my money? Wait… Is this girl after my money too?”
As a result, it becomes increasingly difficult to match with women who are genuinely your type. You may have money and no shortage of partners, but you end up having more relationships that leave you feeling somewhat unfulfilled emotionally.
I can say this because, from the outside, I’ve watched papas age and seen the nature of the messages they receive from papa-katsu women and hostesses clearly shift toward being motivated by money. But compared with that, the questioner’s situation is still very comfortable.
One day, you’ll probably look back and think, “I was pretty privileged to be worrying about whether to break up with those women.”
Until then, continuing to enjoy the messy drama to the fullest is also a perfectly valid option. Fighting!
🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
If you’re worried about growing old alone, you could get married. If you’d rather keep enjoying yourself without worrying about it, you don’t have to.
You could marry that woman and continue your club activities, or break up with her and date other women instead.
It’s up to you.
🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
I don’t think you necessarily need to break up.
For now, I’d suggest stopping the allowance payments.
Then you can see how the relationship changes and decide what to do from there.
I think you probably already sense this, but the reason you can’t truly fall for her is that she’s saying she wants to marry you because you give her 100,000 yen per pay-per-meeting arrangement—not because of who you really are. You feel that it’s a little separate from the real you, don’t you?
🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
If it were me, I’d continue the relationship but wouldn’t get married. Once you’re married, you can’t fool around with other people.
I wonder if 500,000 yen a month is spending a little too much.
Why not just continue things as they are? If she doesn’t like it, she’ll leave. Saying you might get married someday would be dishonest, so be upfront that you have no desire to get married.
That’s what I was telling myself—someone who’s practically single anyway.
P.S.
Aya’s answer below is pretty profound.
Lately, I’ve really started to feel myself getting older, and I can’t go for women in their twenties anymore.
Maybe that’s okay in its own way.
Other
If you’re having doubts, then isn’t breaking up the only real option?
It sounds like she’s decided that, at this point in her life, marrying someone who’s easy to be with, reasonably likable, and financially stable is the best choice—especially since finding a new papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) partner is becoming difficult, but she can’t get by on her own income.
If you don’t feel ready to take responsibility for sharing that person’s life, then the answer seems pretty clear.
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
Even if you marry someone you believe is your perfect match and feel happy spending the rest of your life with them, a certain percentage of marriages still end in divorce...
If you're unsure, I don't think you have to get married, and you don't have to continue things as they are now either.
That said, based solely on what you've written, I do feel that trying marriage once might not be a bad idea. Do you really need to break up...?
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
Get a grip, old man(笑)
Even a kid in his twenties should be able to make decisions about his own life.
That reminds me of advice I received from a senior colleague in his fifties when I was in my twenties:
“Don’t have sex with someone you’re thinking of breaking up with.”
If a woman wants to marry you or have children with you, she might poke holes in condoms, claim she’s taking the pill, or even lie and say she’s pregnant. At the time, I thought that was the kind of thing you only saw in manga, but I later learned that quite a few women are willing to take such drastic measures.
You’re not some barely twenty-year-old girl, so at least think for yourself about whether you should break up.
Also, I don’t think seeing multiple people through a dating club is inherently dishonest.