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Apr 15, 2024 15:33
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I’m a 22-year-old woman who has been doing papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) and work in the adult entertainment industry on and off since I was 18, right after graduating high school. Because I have a diagnosed developmental disorder and was bullied at school and at part-time jobs, I became anxious about functioning in society. I started doing this because I desperately wanted to meet a man who would support me financially and introduce me to high-end brands. Van Cleef has been my dream brand since I was a teenager.
Over the past four years, I’ve hardly met anyone I could continue seeing regularly. However, I’m due to start a regular day job this month, and I also expect to receive ¥200,000 a month through a dating club. I finally feel like I’m at the starting line of being able to buy a Van Cleef piece.
Since I’m doing papa-katsu, though, I would ideally like to meet a man who would buy it for me. When I asked my mother about this, she told me, “If you wear a brand-name item that you bought yourself, a man who wants to buy things for you will eventually notice it and appear.”
With that in mind, I’m considering buying a Van Cleef piece for myself first, as mentioned above.
I’ve researched the designs and chains of Van Cleef necklaces, as well as the brand’s history, and I find them incredibly appealing.
However, I can’t help having the rather shameful thought that buying one myself might be a waste, since some women involved in papa-katsu have their Van Cleef pieces bought for them. I’m conflicted.
I’m sorry for going on at such length about my personal circumstances. Here are my questions:
Question for male members:
What impression would you have of a woman doing papa-katsu who bought a Van Cleef necklace with her own money and wears it? Would some of you see it positively, as a sign that she’s working hard?
Question for female members:
If there’s a brand you want, do you generally have your papa (a male supporter) buy it for you, or do you sometimes buy it yourself?
I’d appreciate everyone’s answers.
I’m sorry to bring something like this to a free Q&A forum, but I’m seriously struggling with this, so I’d be grateful if as many people as possible could share their thoughts!
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Even when you take someone out for a high-end meal, it’s genuinely enjoyable when she already has an interest in that kind of food and goes out to eat it on her own dime. The experience—and the emotion it inspires—is different.
I don’t play golf myself, but I imagine it’s the same with golf: you’d have much more fun playing with someone who regularly enjoys hobbies, sports, and other activities at her own expense.
If she wouldn’t do something unless someone else paid for it, it might not be very enjoyable.
The same may be true of necklaces and other things people wear…
I don’t even know what that particular necklace is called, and I’m not interested in it. I wouldn’t recognize it even if she were wearing it.
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When I see a woman wearing a Van Cleef & Arpels necklace, my first thought is, “We don’t have the same taste.” I also think she seems young, since it’s natural to want designer items when you’re younger.
If she bought it herself, I’d feel that she must have genuinely wanted it. If you really want something, you’ll buy it yourself rather than wait for someone else to get it for you.
When I met a woman wearing a Van Cleef necklace that I estimated had cost at least three million yen and had been given to her as a gift, my first thought was, “She must have worked incredibly hard for the man who gave her such an extravagant gift.”
She later told me that she really had put in a tremendous amount of effort. What stayed with me was her saying that she never wanted to be involved in a relationship that required that much energy again.
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Is Van Cleef really that cute? Maybe what you’re in love with is the price tag, not the design?
I’m probably in the minority, but Van Cleef’s designs look cheap to me—they’re not attractive at all.
I buy what I want myself, and even if I don’t say anything, my papa (a male supporter) will buy things for me. But I don’t need Van Cleef.
(Sorry, Van Cleef.)
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To be honest, I don’t really look closely at necklaces, so I wouldn’t notice whether one was designer or not. That’s why it wouldn’t bother me.
This is just my personal opinion, but since buying the necklace wouldn’t inconvenience anyone, I don’t see anything negative about purchasing the one you want.
By the way, is your mother asking you for advice about papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan)?
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スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
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Spending money on things that aren’t useful seems like nothing but a waste. You should buy them yourself and keep them hidden.
I’ve given quite a bit for tuition or investment funds, but I wouldn’t want to continue seeing someone who’s into jewelry.
Mothers who approve of papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) need to be careful, too. Once you make money, they might start mooching off you. Save it secretly, and keep quiet about it even if you make a profit.