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Sep 26, 2023 06:45
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Among women ranked Black, is the No. 1 woman simply the one with the highest premium fee?
For Black women, is the allowance set by the woman or the man?
What is the going rate for allowances for Black women? Are there any Black women who would accept a lower amount? Also, if you really like someone, how often do you usually meet?
If the allowance is particularly high, is the arrangement less likely to continue? Do you keep going despite the financial strain, or does it usually end after one meeting?
When meeting a Black woman, do you arrange the finest restaurants and hotels?
Are gifts or an increased allowance expected for birthdays, Christmas, and so on?
With Platinum women, is it enough to offer a reasonable amount, while with Black women, do you feel you have to go all out? I feel like I’m being made to think that way.
Thank you in advance.
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In my case, I generally ask the woman what amount she’s looking for and decide from there, so it depends on her desired amount rather than her class.
There’s probably a lot of information out there, but I think the situation can also vary by branch. Since the cost of living differs between Tokyo and regional areas, I feel that has an impact as well.
Female members generally don’t know their own class unless the man reveals it, so this is based solely on my experience: women in both the Platinum and Black classes requested the same amount. So although I do ask what amount they’re looking for, everyone I’ve met has ultimately received the same allowance.
I’ve also heard from women I became friendly with that some men adjust the allowance based on how often they meet—for example, if someone travels for work and can only meet occasionally—or based on the other person’s attitude.
I think it varies from person to person even among Black-class members, but some set a minimum allowance and, as long as it’s above that amount, make their decision based on other factors, such as whether the person seems safe or sincere.
So while the allowance is certainly important, I get the feeling that for Black-class members, other factors are important too.
The above is based solely on my experiences with Black-class women.
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Age: Private
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From the men’s perspective, they don’t treat women they date differently based on whether they’re “Black” or another class. Their importance—and the allowance—doesn’t change. If anything, women in the Gold class sometimes ask for double the allowance, such as ¥100,000.
If anything, I feel that women who aren’t particularly appealing—or who can’t find a papa willing to stay with them—tend to ask for higher allowances.
> Does being a Black-class woman make you feel like you have to work harder?
The more popular a woman is, the more I think she can simply be herself, relaxed and natural. I also imagine she’ll be able to find a papa who lets her be that way.
When it comes to the allowance, everyone has different priorities, preferences, and compatibility, as well as different things they care about.
Even for a Black-class woman, I feel it may be more reassuring and comfortable to have a papa who stays with her long-term for an allowance of around 50,000 yen.
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Age: 60s
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>Are there really women in the “black” tier who are okay with a low allowance?
Just to answer that part: yes, there are.
I’m not bragging or trying to sound impressive, but I pay a flat ¥50,000 per meeting, and I spend around ¥30 million a year in total on allowances. Allowances only—the cost of meals and everything else is separate.
Last year, one girl took about ¥10 million out of that ¥30 million. We were intimate around 200 times. She was a “black” woman—though she’s since left the club.
It wasn’t that I was especially popular. I think she found a gold mine in me and made the most of it. The ¥50,000 per meeting was the rule; the game was figuring out how much she could extract under those terms.
She also went on dinner-only dates with other men for ¥300,000 per meeting. That is, assuming what she told me was true.
If you only heard the story, it might sound like I was more popular than the men she saw for dinner, right?
That’s not it. It was simply a difference in finding the optimal way to draw money out of each man.
If she thought dinner-only dates were more effective for getting someone emotionally invested, she did that. With someone like me, she focused on the number of meetings. She could adapt her approach completely.
That’s what a truly “black” woman is.
You won’t make money by just getting a club representative to label you “black” and feeling pleased about it without actually doing anything.
It’s like having an academic background. Graduating from a good university alone doesn’t mean you can make money in the real world.
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Age: Private
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Universe staff
Thank you for your question. I’ll answer this one too.
> What is the going rate for an allowance for Black women?
I’ve always said that there’s no fixed going rate for an allowance, since it depends on the person. However, lately it seems that more people have been offering low allowances, so I suppose I should give a guideline.
For a Black woman, the standard is generally 100,000 yen or more per meeting.
Men who joined Universe before they stopped stating allowance guidelines may have heard that the allowance should generally be at least the same as the setting fee.
In other words, the general guideline is:
Black: 100,000 yen or more
Platinum: 50,000 yen or more
That’s only a general guideline, of course. Some Platinum women may not agree to anything under 100,000 yen, while some Black women may be fine with 50,000 yen.
Since women aren’t told their class, this is only natural. Ultimately, the two of you should discuss and decide the amount together.
That said, if you don’t know what’s considered typical even when discussing it, I’ll go ahead and say that for Black, 100,000 yen or more is the standard.
If there’s a woman whose setting fee is 200,000 yen due to her premium pricing, you should probably assume that many men would also be willing to pay 200,000 yen or more as her allowance.
Reading your question, I don’t think there’s any point in pushing yourself too hard. It would be best to pursue arrangements that fit within your means.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
> Does being No. 1 among Black women mean having the highest premium fee?
It depends on what you consider “No. 1,” but the Black woman with the highest premium fee is No. 1 in terms of the setting fee.
> For Black women, is the allowance determined by the woman’s asking price or the man’s?
I don’t think it’s simply about the price. The allowance isn’t something that can be decided solely according to one person’s wishes.
> What is the going rate for allowances for Black women?
There’s no fixed market rate. If anything, I think each individual has their own sense of what the going rate is. Some Gold women ask for 100, while some Black women ask for 50.
> Are there Black women who are okay with a low allowance?
What exactly do you mean by “low”?
> If you like someone, how often do you meet her?
I don’t think liking someone necessarily means you’ll meet more frequently. We both have our own lives.
> Also, if the allowance is high, is it difficult to continue seeing her?
Generally speaking, I think so.
> Do you force yourself to continue, or does it end after one meeting?
Personally, I generally don’t even meet them once. I’ve tried a few times out of curiosity to see what might happen when the allowance was very high, but each time it fell short of my expectations, so it ended after one meeting.
> When meeting a Black woman, do you arrange the finest restaurants and hotels?
Personally, I don’t choose the allowance, meals, or hotels based on the woman’s class.
> Are gifts or an increased allowance necessary for birthdays, Christmas, and so on?
Personally, I don’t think they’re necessary. I have given gifts on birthdays or simply when I felt like it.
> With a Platinum woman, do you keep things moderate, while with a Black woman, do you feel you have to make more of an effort?
Not at all. A woman’s class has nothing to do with how much money I spend on dating her or how considerate I am toward her.