Tips Sep 22, 2023 19:09

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There’s something I just can’t come to terms with, so I’d like to ask for your advice. Recently, I entered an adult relationship (intimate) with someone I had been seeing for the third time. I know it’s rude to compare him with other papas, but considering the amount of time he kept me, I felt his allowance was a little low. Still, I had a good impression of him, so when he invited me to have an adult relationship, I agreed. During it, he tried to enter without protection, so I refused and he reluctantly put on a condom. At some point, I realized he had inserted himself without one, and I was genuinely shocked. I had him stop immediately, and we ended things there. Since I had missed the last train, I had no choice but to stay at a hotel. The next day, he suggested we do it one more time, but I told him I was going home, so we parted ways. When he gave me my allowance, he said, “Since we couldn’t go all the way, I’ll give you enough that you won’t feel guilty,” and handed me ¥20,000. I had no intention of seeing him again, so I just left without saying anything, but half of it was gone on the cost of emergency contraception. I have a couple of questions: ① The club says it can’t get involved in arrangements after the first meeting, but if I report this to the club, would they take any action at all? For example, lowering his rating? ② From a papa’s perspective, is this really how women receiving money are treated? As in, if things don’t work out, they’re simply discarded? I suppose the truth is that, to him, I was only worth that much—but it still hurts. I’m sorry this turned into a long rant when I meant to ask questions. I’d appreciate your answers to the two points above.
👤 Asked by Guest 👩GenderFemale 🎂 20s 👑 Universe female member
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Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
You should have acted on that first uneasy feeling. You could have simply declined the date, or clearly explained beforehand that you had plans and needed to leave by a certain time—for example, specifying that you could only stay for four hours. Women absolutely need to protect themselves in this activity. Dealing with the condom situation must have been difficult, but you handled it well. ① As other papas have said, please don’t let your anger take over or exaggerate anything. Calmly report the facts to the club and help prevent other women from going through the same thing. ② In papa-katsu, women are allowed to turn down men too. If he behaves like this, no woman he likes will continue seeing him. Not all papas are like that, but unfortunately, there really are such misguided papas. I hope your next offer leads to meeting a gentleman. It’s not that you’re “that kind of woman.” He was simply that kind of man—a completely deluded idiot. Doesn’t he realize it? If he keeps acting like that, no woman will want to continue seeing him. He’s seriously an idiot. This is only based on my personal experience, but I’d picture the breakdown like this: - Good papas: 20% - Ordinary, but tolerable: 60% - Bad papas: 20% Of course, every woman has different standards, but that’s roughly how it feels, lol. Personally, if a papa takes care of his appearance, manages his scent, is kind, doesn’t do things I dislike, stays calm, keeps his promises, and pays the allowance properly, that’s basically enough for me to consider him a good papa. Since it’s so easy to become the kind of papa women want to continue seeing, I can’t quit papa-katsu, haha. And if he adds that he supports you even if you have another papa or boyfriend, and says, “I won’t message you except about scheduling,” I imagine he’d probably rank among the top papas women want to continue seeing—even below the most popular women.
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Absolutely disgusting—what a terrible person. And on top of that, he’s so cheap. Even if you’re worried about what the staff will think, and even if reporting it won’t change how they handle him, you should still report him. (Give up on recovering the allowance—it’s not going to happen.) Personally, if I were staff, I’d ban him from the club. Though, of course, they wouldn’t be able to verify the facts. For example, if word spread on external forums that the quality of Universe’s male members was terrible, women would stop joining, which would be bad for both Universe and its male members. It’s important for men who do awful things to understand that they will face strict consequences. I also think men—especially older men—need to fully understand how wrong and harmful going bare can be. Seriously, maybe they should make an adult version of the sex-education videos young people watch nowadays and have all male members watch it when they join. They could watch it on an iPad for about 20 minutes during the interview at the hotel lounge. They wouldn’t be allowed to join unless they watched the whole thing and checked the box saying, “I agree.” It’s really unfortunate that, although most men conduct themselves smoothly and respectfully, there are still a few absolutely terrible members. Marika
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A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
① The best approach is to calmly report the facts. The star rating may change depending on the survey, but separately from that, there’s a good chance the club could add a comment describing what kind of man he is. ② There are all kinds of men out there. It’s important to figure out what kind of man he is during your dinner date. Even so, ending up with a man like this was simply bad luck, so try to move on and focus on the next one.
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だて◎ゆめ
👨 Male Universe member
I read your question, and this male member is quite the player. And the young lady is no slouch herself, either(笑) ① You should simply report the facts as clearly and briefly as possible. After that, the club will probably take some kind of action to prevent something similar from happening again. If registering women no longer see any benefit, people will stop signing up. If the club can no longer do business, the owner, employees, and users will all be in trouble. ② Men who view papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) as a game will probably just cut someone loose if things don’t work out. In other words, they think, “There’s no need to keep seeing someone if I have to pay for it.” There are plenty of women they’d be happy to spend time with, after all.
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いっつ・みぃ
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Age: 50s 👨 Male Other
What an awful ordeal you went through. This isn’t just something to vent about—you should be furious and report him to the club. If you let it go, he’ll only go on hurting other women and tarnishing Universe’s reputation. You clearly refused sex without a condom, yet he somehow ended up without one. That’s absolutely disgusting. He even set the date to start at a time that would conveniently make you miss the last train. Non-consensual sex without a condom. Non-consensual overnight stay. And only ¥20,000 in allowance? You don’t hear about many such awful papas at Universe. I don’t think the person asking this question is at fault in the slightest. As a fellow woman, this makes me sad too. It’s me
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カズ
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
①If you contact the club and ask them to caution him, they may say something to the man. However, don’t forget that he might hold a grudge against you for “telling on him.” Contacting the club to ask them to lower his rating may make you come across as a complainer, so I think it would be best to simply and matter-of-factly report what happened. ②I think it depends on the person. Personally, I wouldn’t do something like that, and I believe my acquaintances are the same.
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