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Apr 27, 2023 12:02
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https://universe-club.jp/information/date-type/
I understand that the system was reviewed in response to opinions like “Please do something about Relationship Type B,” but honestly, do you think the new relationship types will resolve men’s uncertainty and suspicion?
The following is just my personal opinion from a man’s perspective.
The problem with Type B is that, assuming the two people continue meeting, there is a need to resolve the uncertainty over whether things will genuinely progress after the second date—or whether the woman is simply stringing him along and only agreeing to dinner dates. It would be much clearer if she simply declined the second date.
Of course, I do think the new Type B is a valid relationship type.
However, all the new Type B really makes clear is that it may not be possible to make a decision even after the second date. The concept of “taking things slowly” remains vague. Does “slowly” mean the third date, or five years from now?
As things stand, men who offer to meet women under the new Type B (the current Type B) need to protect themselves. For example, during the first date, they might say, “Please decide by our Xth date. If you don’t feel it will work by then, I’ll step away.” I often speak this way to women currently classified as Type B.
If possible, I think it would be helpful to include a guideline in the explanation of the new Type B, such as “generally within around five dates” (the number is just an example). Personally, if more than five dates are needed and there is still a possibility that she cannot decide, I would rather see women guided toward choosing Type A.
Ultimately, this is a relationship involving an allowance. If a woman needs the same amount of time—or even more time—to get to know a man through dinner dates before deciding whether the relationship will develop, just as in ordinary romance, then at least from the man’s perspective, there is no benefit before making the offer.
I also think the new Type C would be clearer if it were explained along these lines: “The first date is dinner only. However, during the first dinner or by the time we meet for the second date, I will decide whether I can begin an adult relationship from the second date onward.” Since the current Type B is being subdivided, this seems like a more precise explanation.
The underlying intention should be that if the relationship cannot—or will not—progress to the second date, the woman should decline the relationship altogether, including dinner-only dates.
Honestly, there are also women who are secretly more like Type A among the new Type D (the current Type C). So I think it would be better to explain it as follows, without creating excessive expectations: “If we hit it off, the relationship may develop into an adult relationship on the first date. However, if we do not hit it off on the first date, there is a possibility that things will not progress even after the second date. If both parties agree, they are free to continue meeting.”
That would encourage both men and women to approach the first date with the right level of commitment.
Of course, people are people. Even if a woman is secretly more like Type A, there is nothing wrong with continuing to meet if the man genuinely enjoys simply having dinner with her and both parties are comfortable with that. Conversely, a Type A woman may also choose, of her own accord, to progress from the very first date.
In any case, most men make their offer based on the relationship type selected by the woman, at least up until they meet in person. If she has no intention of deciding whether to proceed according to the stated relationship type—or if she is unable to express what she wants—then I believe the relationship types need to be revised so that they do not allow things to be prolonged through dinner dates alone, with the exception of Type A.
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Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I don’t think there’s any way to satisfy men who are constantly suspicious.
In the end, if things don’t go the way they want, men who accuse women of misrepresenting their type will probably just make the same accusation again.
There’s no way a date with someone like that could be a good experience for the woman.
So perhaps this change to the dating types is less for the men and more for the women.
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Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
No matter how much you explain it, there will always be girls who try to get paid for dinner only.
So I suppose it’s worth breaking things down and trying it out—if it improves things even a little, that’s a good thing.
In the first place, Fuu doesn’t make offers to former B members, so I haven’t really thought about it that deeply.
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Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
“Power level… only 5… What a loser…”
If you just raised your power level, women would like you regardless of their dating type. Do you really enjoy obsessing over such little details?
And if you keep going on like this, won’t you still be dissatisfied even after dividing the current Type B into 100 categories?
Divide it, divide it again—and no matter how many times you divide it, you’ll never reach the truth. It’s like Zeno’s paradox of Achilles and the tortoise.
If all you want is that, you can get it at an adult entertainment venue.
Other
Whenever I see questions like this, I can’t help thinking that some male members are asking for far too much reassurance that they’re guaranteed to get lucky.
This isn’t a place that arranges prostitutes who will definitely sleep with you. At least, it’s not an adult-entertainment business—it simply matches men and women.
Besides, if you don’t have the patience to enjoy finding out whether you can win someone over, you probably shouldn’t get into papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) in the first place. Honestly, an adult-entertainment venue might suit you better.
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Age: 50s
👨 Male
Other
Sorry, this is just my personal take.
I think dating types are meant to provide men with information, while also giving women a sense of safety and a way to set boundaries or have an excuse.
If men look at dating types too simplistically—“She’s Type D, so it’s possible,” or “She’s Type B, so I wonder how many dates it’ll take”—and only from a male perspective, I don’t think that improves their chances of success.
Regardless of her dating type, I think your chances of intimacy go up if you focus on just one thing: “What can I do to make her feel comfortable agreeing to an adult relationship (intimate)?” Then just enjoy the date. lol
No matter how you define the dating types, a Type D woman may still turn you down, and things may develop into an adult relationship (intimate) with a Type A woman.
(Though inviting a Type A woman is against the club’s rules.)
That’s the reality of papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan): the woman has the final say over whether or not she agrees to an adult relationship (intimate).
At a dating club, results are easier to achieve than in the real world if you know how to properly court someone, and the club’s system helps avoid various risks.
Isn’t this setup incredibly fortunate?
I just want to pay for an enjoyable experience. If I become overly suspicious, neither I nor the woman can have a good time, and I don’t expect the club to solve that for me, either.
That’s just me.
Other
To begin with, men who are allowed to choose the new B or new C type probably won’t get approved unless they’re handsome, mature gentlemen.
If you’ve been turned down after the second or third meeting, take a good look at yourself.
Did you perhaps show up for your first date looking like you’d just crawled out from under a kotatsu?
Do you have dandruff piled up on your shoulders?
What about your teeth? Do you groom your pubic hair?
Do you shower before meeting her?
Before complaining endlessly about women, make sure you keep yourself clean.
Other
I didn’t read the whole thing because it was so long, but good luck.
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Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
Splitting B into A, B, C, D, and E sounds like a good idea.
I think the new B would be geared toward more experienced users.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I don’t think so.
The talk about “dating-type scams” and “protecting oneself” is honestly ridiculous.
If they’re willingly making offers to current B-type women because they enjoy that gray area, then saying, “How many dinners do I need to have before I can make a decision?” isn’t something a grown man should be saying.
Men like that will keep complaining unless things go exactly the way they want. So I don’t think their suspicion and paranoia will disappear just because the definitions of the dating types are changed.
Personally, I don’t think the club needs to change those definitions just to accommodate opinions like these.
Men who can’t accept the setting fee as money they might simply lose probably shouldn’t use a dating club.
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Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
That’s just your way of looking at it.
There are people of both genders who prefer the new B type.
Personally, I was relieved that C-type profiles, which used to be included under B, were separated out as the new C type. So I don’t really see it as B being divided into separate categories.
A little while ago, I believe one woman’s profile said something like:
“I’d like to take my time and let things develop. I don’t see it as merely an act.”
Some men feel the same way. Rather than jumping straight into an adult relationship (intimate) with an allowance, they want to take their time, build a connection, and see whether they click before things progress. When a relationship develops that way, the bond outside of the adult relationship is already strong, so the intimate side is more fulfilling too. In particular, I think women feel much more comfortable and relaxed. Even after things progress, since both people genuinely like each other, it often becomes a long-term relationship rather than ending immediately.
I think looking for someone who wants that kind of relationship—where an adult relationship (intimate) and allowance aren’t the top priorities, and who doesn’t expect intimacy every time you meet—is also one valid purpose of a dating club.
A dating club gives you the option of using an allowance as a kind of shortcut, and since women benefit from that too, it should make it easier for both sides to pursue the kind of relationship they want.
Wouldn’t it be enough for you to make an offer to someone in the new D category?
Also, aren’t the only things you’re looking for and offering an adult relationship (intimate) and an allowance? If so, that’s basically contracted sex and not much different from prostitution, so it can hardly be called dating.