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Dec 8, 2022 23:04
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Would an allowance of 30,000 yen be okay?
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Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
3?
3?
Huh?
Are you seriously asking this?
Is this just bait?
Obviously, ¥3 is impossible.
Are we talking about different units?
¥30,000?
You mean $30,000 (around ¥4 million)?
If you can afford to hand that over every time, you wouldn’t need to ask.
No?
¥30,000?
This isn’t an app, so asking this makes me wonder what you’re thinking.
If you came from an app, you’d be better off going back there.
Women can sign up for apps easily, and there are no interviews, so they can’t be rejected. Do you understand that this convenience is why some women are willing to accept a low allowance?
With Universe, women have to go out of their way to attend an interview. Think carefully about why they would still come to register despite that hassle.
It’s because there are advantages that apps don’t offer.
Compared with the men on those apps, what do you have to offer?
If the answer is nothing, you should think much more carefully about the allowance.
The best thing to do is ask the other person what allowance they expect.
If the amount is too high for you, a gentleman simply ends the meeting without trying to negotiate.
If you think it’s too expensive, that just means your financial means are limited.
Still, seeing more men at this level lately makes me wonder whether it’s only a matter of time before Universe Club falls apart.
Not being involved in deciding the allowance is completely different from saying a low allowance is acceptable.
If women keep giving negative ratings to men who offer low allowances, those men can be forcibly removed from the club.
So women should give low ratings to men who offer low allowances as well.
(When I say “low,” I mean low from the woman’s perspective. If the amount made her uncomfortable, then I don’t see any problem with giving the man a low rating.)
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
A five-star rating means she has other options and probably isn’t struggling for money in the short term.
Unless you’re exactly her type—handsome, exceptionally hospitable, and so on—she probably won’t ignore the amount entirely. It’s not impossible, but the odds are low.
If you want things to progress for sure, you’ll probably need to offer 8. I don’t think I’ve ever had the terms not work out with a Type C woman at that amount.
A five-star girl probably won’t try to overcharge you, either. When I joined, five stars generally meant you were safe, apart from the blacklisted ones. These days, though, I get the impression that five is the bare minimum.
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Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
If it’s a Gold C, five-star hole, the par is 5. So three strokes would be two under par. Aiming for that on your first-ever course debut is impressive. Good luck—I hope you sink it nicely.
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Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
A five-star rating means she’s already been on plenty of dates, so you’ll have lots of competing guys.
Mack is good.
In my case, I started at 3 with someone who was Standard B. Since I’d also come from an app, I assumed that was the going rate. We’ve been together for three years now, and the amount has gone up since then.
If she doesn’t seem to have anyone else, starting low and increasing it if you like her might work.
Other
No, that’s absolutely not okay!! That’s way over the line!
To use a baseball analogy, it’s a dangerous pitch that comes close to hitting someone in the face. Everyone has different views on allowances, so I’m not saying whether it’s right or wrong, but I do think you should understand how far off the average you’re throwing. Personally, even if a woman says she’ll leave it up to me, I only go up to 4.
I’ve had someone at 3 who stayed with me for a long time. She looked like Yuki Koyanagi, and had inherited Yuki Koyanagi’s strong personality, plus the thought process of “Kamatanichi’s Yamauchi.” She was quite a unique character. The other day, she told me some weird guy had hit on her and showed me their LINE messages. She had seized on one mistake made by a guy she’d met at a group date or something and whom she’d been asked out by, and it ended with him apparently apologizing on his knees. Her fighting power was just too high, so I figured that was probably why relationships with her never lasted. I actually liked her and we continued seeing each other, but I wouldn’t recommend it(笑)
If she’s a Type C, five-star woman, she’s probably had experience with a fair number of men, including adult relationships (intimate), so she’s likely developed her own sense of the going rate. You can’t really play the game of forcefully steering a complete beginner who’s new to a dating club and doesn’t understand the situation onto your own terms. I think it’s important to discuss what both of you want, on the assumption that she understands what a “typical” arrangement looks like.
Taro
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Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
Why not ask her first?
You can always set your own standards based on her response, so it’s not too late.
Since she has a five-star rating, I assume she has her own standard for the allowance.
Also, given the five-star rating, the first or second date may go perfectly well. At the same time, the fact that she has five stars could also mean that a fair number of men don’t want to continue seeing her.
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Other
If you’re asking here, you should really confirm with the woman herself.
At a dating club, I think most women would be disappointed with an allowance of 30,000 yen. But that’s not something outsiders should be commenting on.
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Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
In the end, there’s not really much point in playing it safe just to maintain a 100% success rate.
Even with only a 10% chance of success, I’d rather take the shot at the goal I’m aiming for and nail it. So don’t be afraid—kick the ball.
Someone once said, “Only those brave enough to take a penalty kick can miss one.” Even if you fail, you’ll learn something that helps you move forward, and it’ll keep you humble.
Other
Honestly, I think setting it at 5 instead of 3 would make it more likely to continue.
Other
All I can say is, I hope they accept it…
Instead of asking here, why not think it through yourself…?
I suppose any amount is fine as long as both parties are satisfied, but… I feel like saying, “This is a dating club, not an app.”
Other
You should just ask them directly. If they’re okay with it, then it’s fine; if they’re not, then it’s not.
Marika