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Mar 12, 2022 12:54
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I’m the short, married member who asked yesterday about cutting dates short. I’m not the same person as the short member with a 6–0 record, so please don’t get the two of us confused.
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Other
Please make an effort to find a woman like the cheerful Awa-Awa. Not every woman is only interested in the money—there are women who genuinely enjoy spending time with you.
Whatever you do, don’t approach women like the regular questioners here who constantly trash their partners, saying things like “old geezer” or “I’m just putting up with him.”
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I get what you mean, but I think the money comes first, and that’s what makes it feel enjoyable and rewarding.
Even from reading the Q&A posts, there are plenty of women who put up with things despite receiving an allowance.
From a woman’s perspective, you seem like the kind of man who makes it possible to receive an allowance without having to endure anything unpleasant, which is something to appreciate…
🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
Wait, you’re not taking the initiative at all.
You’re just playing defensively and settling for a draw. No one would find that interesting.
Have you become so used to being important, having people entertain you, and constantly being treated with deference that you’ve lost your sense of perspective?
You have to make things fun for yourself! Find something enjoyable and challenge yourself.
Losing spectacularly can actually be pretty fun too.
Other
I’m actually the type who feels uncomfortable receiving money. I only say that I enjoyed spending time together because I genuinely mean it—not because money is involved♪
Are you the person who asked earlier about leaving after a short time (one to three hours)? Women who just take the money and hurry home after a short meeting might be focused on the money…
I’m sure there are other great women at the club too, so I hope you find someone who’s a good fit for you ⸜(* ॑꒳ ॑* )⸝
🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
Isn’t it better when a woman tells you than when she says nothing?
Rather than focusing on what she’s like, the papa (a male supporter) is the one with more life experience. Shouldn’t it be his role to think about why things turn out that way and make improvements?
Whether you enjoy yourself also depends on your own mindset.
If you’re looking for someone to create an enjoyable experience for you, as I mentioned in my previous answer, why not have a trained hostess entertain you at a Ginza club or somewhere similar?
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
To be completely honest, unless you’re naturally someone women are attracted to, you probably won’t enjoy dating-club activities.
It’s better to work on yourself so that, through ordinary dating, younger women will want to see you and spend hours with you.
いっつ・みぃ
Male
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Age: 50s
👨 Male
Other
Even in a relationship between a man and a woman where no allowance is involved, I think it works because both sides exchange value and maintain a win-win balance.
The same goes for dating clubs where an allowance is involved. For men, the value they provide through a dating club is money. Even so, there are arrangements that don’t work out despite a high offer, and others that do work out with a low offer.
What value can the man offer besides money?
What does the woman want that goes beyond the monetary amount?
If you can’t enjoy the give-and-take, I don’t think you can enjoy either dating clubs or ordinary relationships.
The woman who asked this question is offering value in exchange for her allowance—not just physically, but by expressing her gratitude in words as well.
If that doesn’t make him appreciative and instead turns him off, then the problem goes beyond the allowance itself.
Even in business transactions, you consider the other party’s benefits in order to achieve a win-win outcome.
And yet some people ruin a good opportunity for themselves by thinking, “There must be a catch.”
Reading this question reminded me of people like that.
I never want to deal with people who have no business sense.
What a waste of time.
It’s me
Other
If the dates are cut short, it’s only natural that being told they’re “fun” would feel like a lie.
I don’t think you’re not enjoying yourself because it’s a money-based relationship. It’s more likely that you haven’t been lucky with the women you’ve met.
As I said before, there’s a good chance you’re targeting the wrong type of women when making offers.
Other
Is it really a bad thing if money is part of the equation?
Your appeal is something you’ve built through effort, including the money you’ve invested, so I don’t think you need to view it so negatively.
Spending time with someone who isn’t genuinely enjoying themselves probably isn’t much fun. Through work, I often play golf or have meals with people senior to me. I’m mindful of proper etiquette, but I also make a point of enjoying myself wholeheartedly, and I believe the other person can tell that I’m having a good time.
You shouldn’t make everything about money, but I think having money as a foundation is perfectly fine—both in business and in this kind of relationship.
Why not enjoy yourself to the fullest as well?
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
Rather than expecting something from women, you have to focus on elevating yourself as a man.
With my ace, I’m basically just a benefactor. I only transfer the agreed monthly allowance, we meet less than once a month, and I’ve drastically reduced how often we have an adult relationship. I don’t plan on doing so for a while, either.
It was tough at first. There’s only so long you can keep pretending it doesn’t bother you. But you just have to make more money. If you earn enough that the money you give your ace barely registers, that’s all there is to it.
My business is doing exceptionally well, so the monthly allowance for my ace—which used to weigh heavily on my mind—has gradually become something I hardly think about day to day.
It’s only natural to expect something in return for an allowance. But as you rise to a higher stage as a man, you start becoming able to give money to a favorite girl without expecting anything in return, and you can even feel good about yourself for being that kind of man. It’s a variant of Master Veyon.
I want to become the kind of man who can give an allowance to a favorite girl without expecting anything in return. I’m still just starting out, but I want to reach that stage. Once I do, the money will probably come to me on its own.
That said, there’s a trick behind the magic.
I have two stunning women who are just as beautiful as my ace, and I have adult relationships with them. I also have plenty of other monthly arrangements, so my sexual needs are being met by women other than my ace. Pretty unfair of me, right?
P.S.
Paper Airplane, you really shouldn’t say that.汗
Other
I think the date is boring because you’re so unenthusiastic.
Marika
🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
With someone I really like, it may feel different when things continue for a long time.
Using my own money to see them pay off their student loans, get a job, or get married makes me feel like I’ve contributed to society—even if I’m unemployed myself.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
Why does it feel so off when money is involved?
Even the happiness, excitement, and desire to see someone again that we feel toward a boyfriend or casual sex partner our own age are ultimately based on convenience—supporting the woman in front of us and future children, or simply having something enjoyable to pass the time with. Men are much the same.
Everyone is selfish. Even people who enjoy serving others do it because they feel good about themselves when they do so. And men only give an allowance because doing so is more convenient for them.
When you look at it that way, whether or not an allowance is involved seems like a minor detail.