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Mar 3, 2022 02:03
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Other
It depends on whether you want to maximize the total amount or focus on getting more value per hour, even if the overall amount is lower. As others have said, if it ends after just one meeting, you’ll have to spend more time—and incur more costs—looking for someone else, so it may be worth considering the bigger picture.
Other
You can’t really know whether an overnight shopping date in Tokyo is generous without actually going, can you?
It might end with just shopping and transportation costs, after all?! You won’t know until you try it.
It’s not necessarily that Tokyo offers higher allowances—it may just seem that way because there are more registered members there.
Wouldn’t it be better overall to meet someone several times for 50,000 yen rather than getting 80,000 yen for a one-time meeting?
Even if he gives you 80,000 yen, from his perspective, if there’s a better girl he can meet for 50,000 yen, he may not feel like contacting you again, right?! It’s complicated.
Other
I think Dai-san’s point is spot-on.
From a man’s perspective, suppose he initially offers 50, and after negotiating, it becomes 80. From the woman’s point of view, she negotiated successfully. But from the man’s perspective, he was tempted by the prospect of an adult relationship and gave in to his desires, resulting in 80—in other words, it feels like he was overcharged. Once things are over and he comes to his senses, he thinks, “80 was too much,” which is why the arrangement doesn’t continue.
This is just my personal impression, but if a man offers a low allowance at the first meeting and the woman asks for more, even if he agrees on the spot, I don’t think they often continue under those same terms.
I feel that men in urban areas tend to be stingier with allowances. In terms of generosity, people in regional areas may be better. Cities offer plenty of other places to have fun, so men don’t necessarily need to stick with club activities.
Other
I’m not a man, so I can’t say for sure, but I get the impression that Tokyo has a lot of high-level women.
Also, I don’t think being “black” necessarily means she’ll receive a better allowance—it may depend on how she conducts herself and how she treats her papa. In that respect, women who work in nightlife probably have more polished manners and may receive better allowances.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
I’ve mostly heard about Tokyo—or the Kanto area—so I don’t know much about regional areas.
Even in Tokyo, some men offer only a low allowance, while others offer a generous (well-paying) one. That’s the impression I get.
I’ve occasionally heard that allowances are higher in Tokyo, so although I have no hard evidence, I do have the impression that Tokyo offers better allowances.
That said, it’s not as though everyone in Tokyo is like that. Whether you can receive a larger allowance depends on your own appeal.
I think the best way to find out would be to move to Tokyo and give it a try. Once you move, your area will be listed as Tokyo, making it easier to receive offers from men in Tokyo.
However, a woman who stood out as beautiful or cute in a regional area may end up blending in as just an average woman when placed among women in Tokyo. So it’s also important that your photos stand out compared with the other women in Tokyo, as that will affect whether you receive offers.
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
Maybe it’s all about finding the right papa.
Among the male respondents here, Saito-san♪, Early-san, and I wouldn’t hesitate to offer 10 or more.
By the way, there’s a Platinum girl in a regional major city whom I’ve continued seeing on a pay-per-meeting allowance of 14.
There’s also a Black girl in a regional major city whom I’m happily continuing to see at 17 per meeting.
Women spend money on shoes and handbags, right? To me, beautiful women are like shoes and handbags are to women, so I have no hesitation about offering 15 per meeting.
I also want to give them a boost in self-esteem by telling them:
“You’re worth that much.”
When a woman’s self-esteem improves, she becomes emotionally more stable and even more beautiful, so it’s a win-win.
Incidentally, my watch is a smartwatch that cost just over 20,000 yen.
■Thoughts
Compared with becoming a female respondent, becoming a male respondent seems to have a much higher hurdle. It took a month for me to pass the screening. They really dug into my background. Apparently, Maezawa-san asked my assigned staff member all sorts of questions about me.
The person who joined after me was Early-san, a young business owner in his 30s who’s handsome and offers 10 or more per meeting.
What’s happening here is exactly Hegel’s dialectic. I’m the antithesis—the “opposition”—to the papas offering 5 per meeting, the thesis or “affirmation.” Then Early-san is the synthesis, born through aufheben.
Philosophers really are amazing.
Am I the only one sensing a strong intention on the part of Universe Club, or is it just a coincidence?
I’m very curious to see what kind of man joins as the next male respondent.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
Most of the women I see are from Tokyo, but even then, the allowance is usually 50,000 yen per meeting. I don’t think it really depends on whether she’s from Tokyo or somewhere outside the major cities.
I wouldn’t take blog posts at face value, such as claims that the allowance varies by a woman’s class or that allowances are higher in Tokyo.
You said, “Apparently, I received an inquiry from someone in Tokyo about a shopping date,” but did you actually get an offer with a comment saying, “Let’s go on a shopping date”?（笑)
Other
I think it’s a mistake to assume that being Black automatically means higher earnings. If anything, it comes down to the number of offers you get. The more offers there are, the more the market works in your favor. If you’re not getting many offers, it’s basically like spinning a gacha. Wouldn’t Lucky Gold be more profitable than being a high-ranked Black member?
Are you managing to keep the man who gave you over 100,000 yen last month? If not, that’s your biggest challenge. Even if you negotiate and raise the price, it won’t last long. I completely agree with Dai’s opinion.
First, build up the number of offers you receive, then steadily keep the people who offer the best terms. If you want to make money through a dating club, I think that’s the basic approach.
Taro
A～Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月１程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I get offers even in Tokyo, but I can have a normal relationship for a pay-per-meeting allowance of 50,000 yen.
You don’t seem to realize that if you negotiate for 60,000–80,000 yen and the arrangement ends right away, you’d be better off sticking with 50,000 yen and keeping things going.
If you focus too much on getting the best deal, you may eventually stop receiving offers and end up panicking.
By the way, I think men who agree to 60,000–80,000 yen after negotiating see it as a chance to sleep with someone incredibly beautiful at least once, just for the memory. Then they end the relationship after that one time.
It’s like in soccer: the attack ends with a goal.
Once they’ve made the offer, they’re thinking, “Let’s finish with sex and move on to the next one,” haha.