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Feb 26, 2022 20:39
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I’m the person who recently asked for advice about my first date. My relationship type is C.
I’ve now been registered for three weeks and have received three offers.
An offer at age 40… It’s of course all thanks to Universe. I’m sure the staff have been making arrangements for me.
I was nervous about my first date last time, and it was my first adult relationship (intimate)… But I remembered the advice I’d been given and did my best. I didn’t forget to be grateful that making an offer costs money, as well as for the allowance.
However… although I did my best in my own way, I could only partly meet my partner’s request to help him climax eight times during the three-hour date, so it didn’t lead to another meeting. It was an overly long four-hour date, but I gave it everything I had.
Now, I have another date coming up soon. At the next date:
① If I’m asked what happened on my previous date, should I say that things progressed to an adult relationship (intimate)?
(I won’t mention that I couldn’t help him climax eight times. To begin with, I had no idea a man could climax that many times… I suppose it’s because I have so little experience with men.)
② I don’t think I’ll ever be able to negotiate the allowance myself, but the staff told me to make sure to confirm the details of the allowance on the spot. I feel that would be improper, so I couldn’t do it either.
I’d like to know what everyone else does.
Sorry for making this so long.
I trust you, the person answering my questions—even though that trust is one-sided and perhaps presumptuous.
Thank you in advance.
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A woman in her 40s whom I met before told me that a man once asked her to make him climax 10 times in four hours.
Apparently, he was extremely quick to finish—about once every five minutes. He complained that he couldn’t find anyone willing to go along with it… and I mean, no wonder.
She said he was strange in both the way he talked and his overall vibe, so she said goodbye right away without going to a hotel.
I wonder if it was the same man?
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
> Regarding the other party’s request to “make him finish eight times in three hours”... you were only able to meet about half of it.
I’m not entirely sure what happened, but normally I don’t think a man can finish eight times in three hours, so I suspect he was asking for something impossible in the first place.
Also, I can only assume that the reason he didn’t finish was due to him. Or was it that the questioner’s private area started hurting partway through, and she had to give up after about an hour?
Even if it was the latter, I think very few women have a private area sturdy enough to endure three hours. So I don’t think the questioner is to blame.
Also, I may have an idea who that member is. He used to say four times, but somehow he’s powered up since then ><
Despite that, his allowance is low, which makes me feel bad for the women involved. But he’s simply an unusual man.
I don’t think most men demand that many times.
> ① If I’m asked what happened on my previous date, should I say that things progressed to an adult relationship (intimate)?
Even if you’re asked, I don’t think you need to give details.
You could reply with something like:
“Please use your imagination.”
or
“Don’t you think what other people do is irrelevant?”
Finding a way to avoid answering is also an option.
If they ask, you could say:
“It was ¥50,000.” (I think it’s better to state your desired amount rather than the actual amount. If the actual amount was low, they may assume you’ll accept the same amount.)
Even though they asked about what happened, answering with the allowance amount may make them think that was what you meant.
Alternatively, I think it would be fine to lie and say, “We parted after dinner and talked about meeting again next time.”
> ② I don’t think I’ll be able to negotiate the allowance in the future.
You don’t have to negotiate, but I think it’s fine to at least tell them the amount you’d like.
You could also say, “I’m happy to leave it up to you, as long as I’m satisfied with the amount of the allowance.”
However, if you happen to meet a strange man, it could turn into, “We’re fine without an allowance, right?” So you’ll need to decide whether you’d be satisfied under those circumstances as well.
In any case, choose the approach you won’t regret.
👨 Male
Universe member
Great question.
> Three hours, eight times
My first reaction was, “Is that really true?” This is the first time since I became a respondent that I’ve come across something like this. Since this is a dating club, I suppose there are people like that, but I think they’re extremely rare.
Still, that’s incredible—I’m honestly amazed(笑). Though maybe this isn’t something to laugh about...
① I don’t think they’ll ask about the details of the dates. If the conversation moves toward whether you enjoyed yourself, then you can explain it. The person asking might be surprised too(笑).
② Personally, I don’t think the pay-per-meeting allowance is that important. What matters most is whether you want to continue the relationship. However, if you were told to confirm it, I think you should confirm it the first time. Perhaps there have been cases where only the envelope was provided. The club may also require multiple forms of proof.
I don’t think it’s necessary from the second meeting onward. I haven’t made an offer in a while, but as far as I remember, I didn’t even confirm it with my current partner at our first meeting.
P.S.
Thinking about this date—three hours, eight times—I wonder whether that was simply an unrealistic date plan to begin with.
Maybe it ended up being exhausting rather than enjoyable. If that’s the case, I think you should mark everything as the other person having confirmed it in the post-date survey, give the lowest rating in every category, and report it to the club.
Actually, maybe you really should report it.
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
① Whether you should say if things progressed to an adult relationship (intimate) depends on the man you’re dealing with.
A man like me, who doesn’t mind if you’re seeing other men, wouldn’t care. But if your papa (a male supporter) wants you to be exclusive, it’s probably better not to mention it.
You’ve already had an experience that makes for a pretty interesting story. When answering whether things progressed to an adult relationship (intimate), I think it could make for a lively conversation if you share that story too, haha.
② You don’t have to negotiate the allowance, but you should ask beforehand how much the man has in mind.
Also, I’ve never met a woman who checks the amount of the allowance on the spot.
This is actually the first time I’ve heard that staff tell women to do that.
Some men may feel uncomfortable with you checking how much is in the envelope right there, so I think it’s better not to.
🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
First, wanting to climax eight times is abnormal. If you can’t get 10, there’s no need to continue.
For me included, one time is the norm.
If the transportation allowance is less than ¥5,000, the staff have to go to the trouble of collecting it from the man afterward. Even when you’re in the restroom, make sure to confirm it.
I hand over the cash spread out, rather than in an envelope, since it may be difficult to check otherwise.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
Eight times in three hours! That’s incredible. Even four times is impressive. You really gave it your all.
I’ve heard from soapland workers that some male customers who finish quickly prefer multiple rounds, but I didn’t realize there were men like that at dating clubs too. Even with a soapland worker, I’d consider two rounds in two hours impressive. Once I’ve finished, I’m basically satisfied, so I wouldn’t ask for a second round myself.
① Whether you mention that things progressed to an adult relationship (intimate) is entirely up to you and your personality. I personally prefer women who talk about it openly, but I’m sure some men don’t.
② I’ve given allowances to dozens of women over the years, but I’ve never encountered one who checked the allowance amount. There were two or three women who checked the transportation fee, though.
I imagine the staff advised you that way to help prevent problems.