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Feb 21, 2022 18:12
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Thank you to everyone who gave me so many answers earlier.
An erotic massage salon is part of the adult entertainment industry: the service starts with a massage, ends with a hand service, and finishes there. Apparently, nudity and kissing are also included. There is no intercourse.
I used to work in a similar industry, and because I served around 10 customers a day, my daily earnings often exceeded ¥100,000.
The place I’m considering now is an upscale establishment. Apparently, with four 100-minute appointments, I’d take home around ¥90,000. However, I hear people in the erotic massage world say things like, “papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) involves intercourse and adultery, so it’s shady,” while people in the papa-katsu world say, “Adult entertainment is...” Which one generally gives people the worse impression?
If I do erotic massage work, I’m thinking of limiting it to once a week, as some of you advised.
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Both have a bad reputation, so it really comes down to which one suits you better.
With a men’s esthetic salon, the image is somewhat better since it isn’t technically the adult entertainment industry, but the pay is so low that it probably wouldn’t work for you.
Since you want to earn that much, there’s no need to worry about which option looks better. In every industry, people say things like, “I’d absolutely hate that” or “There’s no way I could do that” about the other options.
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If someone offered you a large amount of money to give him a blowjob without a condom, without going through the establishment, you’d do it, right? Isn’t that how you end up moving toward full intercourse?
How do you compare with the other women at the upscale establishment in terms of technique and looks? If the others are very attractive, customers may stop choosing you. Are you sure that won’t be a problem?
I feel like working in the adult-entertainment industry carries a worse image, but I suppose it depends on how you feel about it.
☆To the flag-maker:
If it’s prostate play, I can do that too〜
Being naive about the world, I was taught the ropes during my first affair…
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Age: 40s
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Are you talking about how society views them? In that respect, they’re both looked down on.
Personally, I have a better impression of erotic massage therapists.
I occasionally visit one who stimulates the prostate, and in a way, I’m more grateful to her than to women doing papa-katsu.
It’s not easy to tell a papa-katsu woman, “Stick your finger up my ass.”
But an erotic massage therapist will put on a finger cot and work me over with a sadistic look on her face. I’m very grateful.
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Age: 50s
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It’s not about appearances.
In sex work, the other person is a customer, so you can’t refuse even if they’re someone you really dislike. Doesn’t that get exhausting? That was all I was wondering.
It sounds like you’ve previously dealt with a wide range of customers in the sex industry. If you’re okay with that, you’re probably more likely to earn money there, so go into sex work if making money is your priority.
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I’m not sure what the general public’s image is, but when it comes to esthetic salons, there are salons that aren’t part of the adult entertainment industry, so people probably wonder, “Which is it?”
I seem to remember a celebrity making headlines after getting involved with a woman who worked at an esthetic salon. That’s probably because many people generally view a legitimate esthetic salon as wholesome, so when it comes to esthetic salons, people can’t tell which category they fall into, and their image isn’t fixed.
(When you say “men’s esthetic salon,” though, the association with adult services is probably stronger.)
When it comes to papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), I’m biased because I work for Universe, but I see it this way:
It isn’t a job.
Since it isn’t a job, you’re free to decide what you do.
And because you’re free, it’s essentially the same as dating. (Even if you receive an allowance, it’s not that different from a wife receiving money for living expenses.)
It’s also a place to meet someone you genuinely like.
For those reasons, I personally don’t have a negative image of it at all. I think the fact that it isn’t a job is the biggest factor.
That said, I’m sure some men see it as adult entertainment, and some are only looking to sleep with someone.
So I imagine people who have encountered that kind of man probably don’t have a very positive impression.
Still, adult entertainment is what it is; it simply serves a different purpose. I don’t know what the general public thinks, but I believe it’s perfectly fine to fall in love with an adult entertainer, and there’s nothing wrong with people getting married. Personally, I see women as women—there’s no fundamental difference.
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Isn’t worrying about what society thinks kind of pointless? From society’s perspective, I think they’re both much of a muchness.
With sex work, you can’t choose your customers.
With papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), you can choose the person you date.
In sex work, your job is to please men.
With papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), you receive an allowance for spending time with a man.
Sex work is usually ongoing employment.
Papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) isn’t necessarily something you can continue long-term.
I guess that’s about it? I’ve never worked in the sex industry, so I’m not really sure. And I don’t think papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) necessarily involves an intimate relationship.
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
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Both are viewed negatively by society, so they really aren’t something to compare.
As for going all the way, there are women who do it in every type of establishment because they want to get more bookings. You simply don’t have to do it.
Either way, it’s not work you can keep doing forever, so I think it’s best to start thinking about what comes next.
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
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If there’s no kissing, I figured it would be fine to make it mainly about esthetic treatments.
I’ve heard that quite a few PJ girls find kissing harder than going further.