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Feb 19, 2022 18:57
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I used to do papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) through an app, and recently started using Universe as a female member. I’ve received quite a few offers, but I tell the men I meet, “You’re the first.”
However, they only offer me amounts comparable to—or even lower than—what I received through the app. So, considering that men might raise their offers if they think they’re competing with other candidates, would it be better to tell them that I’ve met other men as well (including an intimate relationship at night)?
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Other
Personally, I’m perfectly fine with her seeing other men. I want the women I’ve been involved with to be happy, so I’d actually like them to move on to men who offer better terms.
🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I don’t feel any competitive urge to offer a higher allowance just because she’s seeing someone else. That mindset of “I don’t want to lose” doesn’t appeal to me at all.
I actually prefer it when someone is upfront and says, “I can’t do it for less than this amount.” If that doesn’t work for Fuu, we can simply part ways.
Even if she has other papas, I aim to be a safe and reliable second-choice or lower-ranking papa, so I have no intention of trying to jump into first place by offering more allowance.
Personally, I feel more at ease with women who have both a boyfriend and a papa. I figure they’d be able to say goodbye casually if something came up, and they’d probably turn to their number-one papa if they suddenly needed to discuss money(笑)
As Aya said, when it comes to seeing multiple people, the right approach for women doing papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) is probably to judge each person first and then decide whether to tell them. But if they seem trustworthy, I think they’d probably feel more comfortable just being upfront.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
So, if the allowance was about the same as on the app, I guess most of the men were offering around 3.
In that case, I think you’ll need a strategy. If they know you’re also meeting other men, some may want to have you all to themselves, so it’s important to figure out what kind of person each man is.
As for the possibility that, psychologically, a man might raise his offer to outbid other candidates, one strategy could be to wear designer items on your dates so he gets the message without you having to say it outright.
You could leave things ambiguous—almost as if he asked but you never gave a definite answer—while still making him think, “She must definitely be seeing other men,” if that makes sense.
That said, some men prefer you to be straightforward, so I think it’s best to adjust your approach depending on the person.
Regarding the allowance, if you’re only offered an amount equal to or lower than what you’d get on the app, you might simply say something like:
“My preference is 7, so that amount might be difficult for me. (o^―^o)ニコ
But please feel free to ask me out again if you’d like.”
Then part ways.
In the end, these things are settled through mutual agreement. If you accept the other person’s preferred terms, you may end up feeling that way because you agreed to them.
However, if your expectations are too high, you could end up turning everyone down and having no one left. So you could either prioritize your pride and become the kind of woman who refuses to compromise on 7, no matter what,
or try different amounts—if 7 doesn’t work, offer 6 to the next person—and see what level men are actually willing to accept.
Good luck!
Other
Smart women in papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) probably tailor their approach to each person—for example, saying, “You’re my first,” or “I’ve met a few people, but I haven’t gone to a hotel with anyone yet.”
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
You realized that since you’re active on an app, you already have experience with papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), so saying “you’re my first” doesn’t really mean anything.
In fact, if you’ve done papa-katsu through an app but don’t have any other offers, they may assume you’re fine with a low allowance.
Either way, I’m not interested in women who try to raise their allowance by telling one lie after another.
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
The pros and cons of anonymous Q&A boxes, I guess…
This tragedy happened because it made the brain-dead papas lurking on this site think that a pay-per-meeting allowance of 50,000 yen or less was the norm.
I honestly feel so sorry for the PJ girls. Those stingy, pathetic guys who try to push allowances lower should just quit being papas already…
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
Regardless of the allowance being offered, I think it’s better to be honest and say that you’re seeing other people if you are.