I often see women asking why men want to travel with them when they clearly don’t, but why don’t older men dislike traveling with young women?
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I don’t want to travel with an older man either.
Being stuck with some unknown married man for 24 hours straight, sleeping in the same room, and having him next to me the entire time while traveling would be unbearable.
Normally, I can tolerate having sex with men I don’t like because I’m getting paid. But traveling—being forced to stay with the same person constantly—is an ordeal I couldn’t endure.
When we only meet for a short time, we can get by with superficial conversation just to get through it, but traveling or staying overnight is a completely different matter.
And yet older men want to go on overnight trips or vacations with women doing papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), don’t they?
Whenever I look at the question box, I see so many women struggling because they’re repeatedly pressured to go, and I can really relate.
I understand that older men want to go on dates and have sex with younger women, but once it involves traveling, I’m just like, “What???”
Women doing papa-katsu—or rather, would anyone actually enjoy traveling while constantly being with someone they barely know? Don’t they worry it might become awkward?
I don’t need answers like, “If you don’t want to spend your private time that way, go work in the sex industry,” or, “I don’t invite women on trips because I know they wouldn’t like it. If we did travel, I’d give her an additional one million yen with no sex involved. Besides, there’s no way I’d meet someone every time with intimacy only. I even have an ideal supporter who gives me one million yen a month for dinner only (no intimacy), twice a month.”
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“Do you really enjoy traveling with someone you barely know and constantly being together?”
From this sentence, it sounds like traveling with someone you do know well would be enjoyable.
If that’s the case, I think the person asking the question is seeing her papa (a male supporter) as someone she doesn’t really know. Meanwhile, the man probably feels that he knows her to some extent, which is why he wants to travel with her.
Viewed that way, his perspective actually aligns with the questioner’s, so I don’t think it’s impossible to understand.
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With the woman I’m currently seeing regularly, overnight stays and trips are both pretty normal.
We’ve been seeing each other for a long time, so neither of us feels awkward, and she’s not some stranger I barely know. She also enjoys traveling.
I think it depends on how long and how well you’ve been seeing each other, don’t you? Asking to go on a trip after only meeting once or twice is obviously out of the question.
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I think so too, but there are girls who want to travel together, you know.
I guess everyone has their own way of thinking about it.
I’m pretty particular myself, so being around someone constantly can be tiring, though.
But if the fun outweighs the fatigue, I’d be open to it.
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A papa (a male supporter) probably wouldn’t go out of his way to travel with a woman he isn’t close to either, so women who get invited on trips may be good at drawing out their papa’s affection—or at making him think he has a chance.
Personally, I’d be happy to go with a papa I’m close to… but I wouldn’t even want to spend the night with someone I’m not close to.
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I’ve taken PJ partners on trips around 200 times. I only go when the woman invites me. I’ve traveled all over Japan—enough to get bored with it.
I only go with women I genuinely enjoy spending time with. It’s probably best not to travel together when you’ve only just met.
The allowance is usually an extra 5 (¥50,000 or so). I ask what she prefers, and sometimes we get two single rooms.
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Basically, I don’t travel or stay overnight with women from papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan). As you pointed out, spending 24 hours with a woman I barely know is extremely stressful.
The only women I travel or stay overnight with are those who have feelings for me—and only when they’re the ones who want to go.
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The next ace is such an amazing woman that I’m completely smitten.
This could be trouble...
I want to travel with the next ace. Questioner, would you please give me permission to take her on a trip?
The allowance is 5. Whether it’s an overnight stay or a trip, there’s no increase—it’s 5, and we’ll have plenty of an adult relationship. Not Haradashi, but of course Nakadashi. Maybe even Hidetoshi.
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I won’t even do overnight stays.
If you don’t want to do something, don’t. If you want to, do it. It’s as simple as that.
It’s consensual dating, after all. Everyone is free to choose!
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It doesn’t really matter what other people do, does it? If you can’t do it, you don’t have to.
Fuu also wrote about this in one of her columns, but traveling was tough. A day trip is about all I can manage. I’d probably let my flaws show, get disliked, and end up parting ways.
I imagine some women who can travel with their papa (a male supporter) are enjoying themselves—winning him over and receiving a generous (well-paying) allowance, or going on luxurious trips they couldn’t afford on their own.
And yet, you asked a question and then said, “I don’t want answers like that.” In that case, there’s no point asking the question in the first place（笑）
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I think the essence of papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) is for the woman to feel:
“Being with him is so much fun that time flies. I could spend hours—or even go on a trip—with him.”
Men are able to get through life thanks to women, so any man who makes a woman he should be grateful to feel uncomfortable is an idiot.
I believe it’s a man’s duty to make the woman he appreciates feel good, happy, and at ease.
That’s why, ideally, the woman should be the one saying, “I want to go on a trip with you!”—even if the man can’t because he has a wife and children.
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Honestly, that’s a mystery to me too. Even overnight stays are tough for me—I can barely manage them if we have separate rooms.
Spending 24 hours together on a trip would be exhausting. I’d be so worried about being considerate that I’d practically die.
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