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Feb 12, 2022 02:08
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いっつ・みぃ
Male
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Age: 50s
👨 Male
Other
Yes, I have.
So far, I’ve had two types of arrangements:
One that continued long-term without an adult relationship from the beginning, and another that started with one but gradually became no-intimacy as we got closer, eventually continuing long-term.
I still keep in touch with both of them to this day—not too often, but not too rarely either.
Other
I used to have a papa like that, but after two years, he reached his limit and we broke things off. Sometimes I wonder if men just can’t be satisfied without an adult relationship (intimate).
Other
I’d love to go out together for dinner, golf, visiting temples and shrines, seeing plays, going for drives, or even fishing♡
As long as we have fun, I’d be happy even if I only received transportation expenses.
🏅 手コキ評論家
入会して8年。いまだ彷徨中です
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
I think it’s entirely possible.
However, among the women Joe met through Universe and continued seeing for a certain period of time, there’s only one with whom he never had a physical relationship. And with Sakura, the first woman I ever made an offer to, we were together for two years and were intimate only once.
On the other hand, with the woman I’m currently seeing—the busty Naniwa girl, an erotic entertainer—we spent the first few months doing almost nothing but having sex. (At her request, we often skipped meals, too.) But after I learned that she was an avid reader, we started meeting at bookstores more often, and gradually the proportion of time spent having sex decreased. Then, last week, when we traveled to Fukui, we eventually went our separate ways without having sex at all. A visit to the Tsuruga nuclear plant during the day led to a heated debate about nuclear power after dinner. (Laughs.) We didn’t reach a conclusion, but we promised to visit Rokkasho Village when spring comes. (Laughs.) I never imagined I’d end up seeing that erotic entertainer without the erotic part.
That said, when it comes to women met through Universe, the allowance can become an issue. Generally, the allowance is lowered if there’s no physical relationship. Joe used to do the same. After various twists and turns, though, he has now stopped changing the allowance based on whether or not there’s a physical relationship or on how close the relationship is.
So the answer to your question is yes—but for Joe, the allowance has to remain the same.
Other
I don’t have much experience and haven’t met many men, so I haven’t had that kind of experience so far.
That said, I’m really drawn to that kind of relationship. Maybe it’s because earning an allowance wasn’t the main reason I signed up for SALON, but I feel there’s a lot to learn through hearing people’s stories, gaining valuable insights, and having new experiences.
Sorry this wasn’t really an answer about personal experience!!
🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
For about a year, I’m happy to keep things dinner only—provided they’re someone I enjoy talking to.
After that, I can ask for 10 or 15, or we can take our time and continue the relationship.
A～Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月１程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
Personally, I feel that once we’ve had an adult relationship, it doesn’t have to happen every time.
More specifically, I’m not particularly interested in penetration, and I’m pretty satisfied when she shows an erotic response during foreplay.
I’m willing to pay the adult-relationship allowance even for foreplay alone, but once she starts enjoying herself, she often asks me to go further…
That said, since the allowance is different for dinner only, things inevitably develop into an adult relationship whenever we meet.
Recently, I made an offer to an A-type woman for the first time. I have no idea what kind of relationship it will become, but I’m looking forward to finding out.
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I often make offers to Type A women because I’d love to have a partner I can enjoy spending time with without an adult relationship.
That said, relationships without intimacy usually don’t last very long. Women come to Universe to earn money, so once they get comfortable and open up to you, they tend to start thinking in terms of cost-effectiveness: “If we had an adult relationship, maybe we could have shorter dates and still make the same amount.”
My guideline is an allowance of around ¥100,000 for a full-day date without intimacy. But a full-day date is realistically limited to once a month for both of us, since it means giving up a precious weekend day.
So after a few full-day dates, the woman will usually start hinting at something like, “It’s hard for us to find the time, isn’t it…? Just hypothetically, if we were to take our relationship to the next level…” She’ll mumble it shyly, and so I don’t embarrass her, I eventually say something like, “If we have an adult relationship, I can give you ¥150,000 for three hours,” and that’s how we end up moving into an adult relationship.
Even with women who are clearly Type A.
There’s also a variation of this with my ace—the woman I value most. The frequency of our adult relationship has gradually decreased. There have even been several months when we didn’t meet at all, and it’s now less than once a month. Still, among my monthly arrangements, I give her by far the largest allowance on a monthly basis.
I’m simply grateful for her presence, so I’ve started to feel a little guilty about having an adult relationship with her.
It’s like I’m thinking, “She’s already given me more than enough in return.”
That said, completely stopping intimacy may not be possible. Apparently, she starts to feel insecure if we go too long without it, saying things like, “Have you started to dislike me?” No, no, no—I’m still very much attracted to her, honestly. (汗)
But I’ve become reluctant to initiate anything myself. Even without intimacy, and even when we don’t meet, I’m gradually becoming satisfied just feeling her presence somewhere in my life. Or maybe I’m just brainwashing myself into thinking that way.
Sorry, I’m not very articulate, and I’m starting to lose track of what I’m even saying. m(__)m
Other
I’m Taro, a male member.
When it comes to the allowance, I don’t pay anything for that kind of relationship. There are women I enjoy spending time with, but money isn’t attached to those relationships. The money is tied to intimacy. It’s not simply about satisfying my sexual urges—I think there’s value in paying when you’re intimate with someone you don’t even like, yet hope to grow closer through that kind of deep connection.
So even if we start out as an intimacy-for-allowance arrangement and eventually develop genuine feelings and become a good match, it turns into a question of whether the allowance is still necessary. On the other hand, if I don’t grow to like her that much, the intimacy-for-allowance arrangement tends to continue longer. For me, it’s only a temporary arrangement until I meet someone I truly want to be with. I’m not sure whether that’s good or bad, but I give an allowance the other person is happy with, so I feel it’s fair. In a way, these relationships can even be more stable than a serious relationship (lol).
Apparently, there are men who aren’t focused on intimacy. I’ve heard that even at adult entertainment venues, some customers pay just to chat and then leave—apparently it happens fairly often, so it’s not that unusual. People are all different.
Other
As I’ve mentioned here a few times, I have one papa who’s dinner only.
And this is despite the fact that I’m Marika, fully aware that I’m a pretty sexy, C-type girl.
The only exception was once, when we stayed overnight at a hot spring—I made a move on him that morning (lol). Other than that, nothing.
That said, he seems to have very particular tastes when it comes to the meals and drinks we have together. I always look forward to dining with him.
We’ve been seeing each other once a month for about a year and a half now.
Marika