If we became intimate without discussing the allowance beforehand and it was less than expected, is it possible to negotiate for the second meeting onward?
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In that case, should I discuss it on LINE before meeting again?
I heard he earns hundreds of millions of yen a year, so I let my guard down and assumed it would be fine to leave it up to him.
It was 40,000 yen, but would asking for double be too much?
He seems to like me quite a lot and said he wants to see me again soon, but I can’t stop thinking about the allowance.
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> If the allowance is lower than expected, is it possible to negotiate for a second meeting or later?
You can certainly try, but the chances of getting it increased are extremely low—probably even lower than winning both the first prize and the bonus prize in the lottery.
> It was 40,000 yen, but would doubling it be asking too much?
I feel that even raising it from 40,000 to 50,000 yen would be difficult, let alone doubling it. It probably depends on your strategy, though.
For example, if the man likes you and seems eager to meet again soon—asking things like, “When can I see you next?”—you could keep him waiting a little by saying, “Work is really busy that day.”
If he still keeps saying he wants to see you again and again, you might say:
“Last time was just a trial, so that allowance was fine, but from next time onward, I’d like a little more.”
That might work.
However, he may also decide that it’s not worth it, so it’s important to accurately gauge how invested he is.
> In that case, I should discuss it with him on LINE before meeting, right?
There’s also a last-resort move where, just as things are about to go further, you say:
“Wait a second. I’d like an allowance of 80,000 yen. Is that okay?”
“If not, I’ll go home today.”
I’d be worried about what would happen to the relationship after that, though.
Still, if you treat him exceptionally well afterward and he’s satisfied, maybe it would work out.
In the first place, the man is at fault for not discussing the allowance beforehand, so I feel like it might be okay to use this last-resort tactic.
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Since the allowance is clearly on your mind, I think you should tell him what you want, even if it feels difficult. Otherwise, it’ll keep bothering you and you won’t even be able to take your pants off, right?
This is your chance to show your skills. Ask with your biggest smile and give it your all. Depending on the situation, shedding a few tears might work too.
Chibariyo! (You’ve got this!)
P.S. I’m off to Okinawa tomorrow!
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Please understand that renegotiating the allowance is difficult.
There’s also a chance he liked you so much because he was able to see you cheaply.
If his personal annual income were in the hundreds of millions of yen, I doubt the allowance would be an odd amount like 40,000 yen. So I’m skeptical of what this man is saying in the first place.
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If you’re prepared to walk away from the relationship, try negotiating.
Let this one go, but next time you receive an offer, agree on the terms before an adult relationship, no matter how wealthy he may seem.
To avoid regrets, be clear about what you want, including your desired allowance and how often you’d like to meet.
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Why not be satisfied with 4?
Even if someone offered 10, if you could only see him once a month, compared with someone who offered 4 but would see you four times a month, wouldn’t the latter be better overall?
Everyone gets hung up on the amount per meeting and ends up failing to turn it into another date.
Before your next meeting, casually ask over LINE, “About how many times a month would you be able to meet?”
Of course, if you liked him and enjoyed the intimacy with him, add, “I’d love for you to hold me again.”
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Nothing is more meaningless than a papa’s annual income.
A papa who can give a woman 100,000 yen per pay-per-meeting arrangement, even if he isn’t wealthy, is a hero to PJs. Meanwhile, someone who has plenty of money but only gives 40,000 yen is just a cheapskate.
Bragging about earning over 100 million yen a year while only giving 40,000 yen per meeting—there must be poop where their brain should be.
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The pay-per-meeting amount is essentially the price that man has put on satisfying his own desires, so I don’t think it’s something you can easily change.
Even among wealthy people, values differ. Some will spend money like water on designer clothes but don’t want to spend a single yen at upscale clubs or hostesses’ bars.
If he earns hundreds of millions of yen but only offers ¥40,000, he may simply be someone who doesn’t want to spend much on the services or intimacy provided by women. And you’ve already agreed to those terms once…
I think your only realistic option is to give up on negotiating and reduce your dates with him from four hours to two, so that you can effectively raise your hourly rate.
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I don’t think a man’s income has anything to do with the allowance.
He may have liked you and simply not complained about the 40,000 yen. If you’re not truly comfortable with the allowance, I think you should confirm it before meeting.
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Yes. Negotiate before meeting him for the second time.
You may not want to expect too much from him. He might just be bragging without any intention of paying.
If he turns you down, move on to the next one.
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