A lot of them say I’m the first woman they’ve met since joining. It’s been about a year since I first joined, and I’ve taken breaks or withdrawn several times. (I keep repeating the cycle of quitting once I’ve found a certain number of papas.)
Since I’m also young, I assume the men I meet probably think I’m new to papa-katsu. So these beginner papas often ask me, “About how many people have you met so far?” I always dodge the question by saying, “I’ve taken breaks and withdrawn a few times...” without mentioning the number at all.
In reality, I’ve received offers from and met more than 30 men. I joined because I’m a college student with no financial support from my family and needed money for living expenses, but I already have several monthly-arrangement papas and pay-per-meeting papas, so I’m not struggling financially at all.
Men who are experienced with papa-katsu don’t ask whether I already have papas, but beginners almost always do. It’s better not to tell them that I’m already seeing other people, right? Also, beginner papas often look up the going rate for adult relationships online—they seem to think it’s around 30,000–50,000 yen—but I usually ask for around 70,000–90,000 yen and won’t pursue an arrangement for less than that.
I currently have four men who only meet me for meals, with no adult relationship, and they’re all beginners...
Two of them agreed to my requested amount, but the other two haven’t discussed the allowance for an adult relationship at all. By the way, they all give me 10,000 yen when we meet for meals.
If you’ve been having meals with someone for a long time and like them, are you expected to offer the amount they want?
If you thought the going rate was 30,000–50,000 yen but were asked for more than that, would you turn them down?
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I’m Dai, a male member.
I think the reason experienced papas are less likely to try to meet women who take a year of repeatedly leaving and rejoining, yet receive offers from more than 30 men, is that they’re more likely to end up meeting beginners.
When I was just starting out, I also used the going rates I found online as a reference, but these days I offer every woman a pay-per-meeting allowance of 5.
If she asks for more than that, I’ll generally have dinner with her for two hours, give her 1, and say goodbye.
Occasionally, a beginner with no offers and no clear idea of what she’s prepared for will ask for 8. In those cases, I sometimes wonder whether I should try it once and see how it goes.
In fact, becoming more experienced has given me a fairly fixed idea of what kind of arrangement works for me.
Beginners, on the other hand, don’t know much yet, so they’re easily influenced by the people around them.
If you tell a man, “The going rates online aren’t reliable—I’m looking for 7 to 9,” some men may simply accept that as normal.
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I’m Tetsu, a male member.
If he’s a beginner papa, there’s a good chance he’ll agree once you tell him what you want. On the other hand, a more experienced man will probably calmly consider whether he should offer your requested amount in order to have an adult relationship (intimate) with you. Beginner papas often get excited when they meet the woman they’re interested in, so it might be best to take advantage of the fact that their judgment is clouded by that excitement (lol).
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I’m Maezawa from the CEO’s office, and I’ll answer this as well.
> Beginners almost always ask this. It’s better not to tell them that I’m already seeing someone, right?
If they’re asking, they’re probably either trying to gauge how popular you are or hoping to find someone who will see only them. But perhaps beginners are the ones who ask questions they couldn’t possibly know the answer to just by asking.
There may be some people you should tell, but they’re probably a minority—or experienced men. Given the situation you described, I don’t think you should mention it.
> If it’s someone I’ve been having dinner with for a long time and really like, would he pay her requested amount?
That depends on the man, so there’s no one-size-fits-all answer.
Some men stick to the amount they’ve set for themselves, while others will pay a woman’s requested amount if they really like her.
Even if they think it’s expensive, they may still decide to try it once.
People vary, so it’s hard to say for sure, but if you’ve been having dinner with a man regularly, I get the feeling he likes you. There’s a possibility he would pay your requested amount, but even then, I think you’d have to wait for him to make the offer.
Someone intelligent would probably realize that the information saying the going rate is 3–5 was incorrect, though...
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I’m Ayase Nana☆
Since you’re very popular, you can simply say no if you don’t like the terms. I hope you find a papa (a male supporter) who’s willing to provide an allowance and stay with you for the long term.
For now, it might be a good idea to go on just one date and see how it goes.
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An allowance of 30,000–50,000 yen is what the nameless demons offer; the “Twelve Kizuki” start at 60,000 yen and up.
You can simply tell the person asking for 70,000 yen or more.
Anyone who can’t pay 70,000 is either a nameless demon—in other words, a stingy little rich person—or someone who simply doesn’t have the money. Either way, you’ll catch the poverty curse, so if they turn you down, think:
“Lucky me—I dodged a poverty demon♡”
This is the biggest dating club in Japan.
If they spend plenty of money on themselves but can only offer a young woman 30,000–50,000 yen, shouldn’t they just use an app?
Women aren’t agreeing to 30,000–50,000 yen because they’re happy with it. They’re reluctantly compromising because they have no other choice.
How can they not understand something even I, a junior-high-school dropout, understand, when they’re willing to spend money on themselves?
It’s one of the seven mysteries of papa-katsu.
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