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Dec 30, 2021 17:53
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Just accept the woman’s requested allowance as is.
If you can’t accept that amount, give up on pursuing her.
Wouldn’t this be the right approach for dating clubs?
Why don’t clubs explain this to male members upfront?
8 answers
Other
You’re BB7.
If all you’re going to do here is complain, why not start the kind of dating club you want yourself?
🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Fuu, a column writer.
If a woman firmly insists on her desired allowance, things will probably turn out the way the questioner said. Women have the right to refuse, too, so that may work for women who receive plenty of offers.
However, women who take the man’s feelings into consideration, respect his wishes, and accept his terms will ultimately be able to date more papas (male supporters).
Women who receive fewer offers will have a better chance of finding someone if they agree to the amount offered by the papa.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
Maezawa from the president’s office here as well.
> Why doesn’t the club explain this to male members from the start?
Personally, I think it would be better to explain this basic principle, but that isn’t how things currently work. It really should be explained when they join, shouldn’t it?
I agree.
The question is whether it can actually be done.
For example, even if we announce, “Please give her the transportation allowance set by the club’s rules at the beginning, since she may feel uneasy or you may forget to give it to her later,” there will still be a certain number of men who come up with one excuse or another because they don’t want to do it.
If that’s the case, then even if we explain it from the outset, I feel there would still be a certain number of men who say, “I don’t want to.”
That could lead to all sorts of problems as well.
Still, I think simply explaining the club’s basic stance to the men would make a significant difference.
We sometimes receive feedback like:
“I was hurt when he negotiated by putting me down so relentlessly, saying things like, ‘She isn’t worth that much, is she?’ and ‘If you explain her value and convince me, I’ll pay more. Do you have any idea how hard it is to earn this much?’”
I sometimes wonder whether comments like that could be avoided if the club explained things clearly from the beginning.
🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m in Seattle.
I’m short, bald, and overweight too, and my mouth is basically a sewer, so if they tell me what they want, I’ll pay whatever they ask.
But if everyone did that, supply and demand wouldn’t balance, and there might hardly be any men left.
Other
I’m Ayase Nana☆
Unfortunately, there’s no going market rate.
Besides, if men simply agree to whatever amount women ask for, the price will just keep rising until even women who aren’t worth that much are getting 100,000 yen per meeting.
Men shouldn’t let themselves be taken advantage of—they should pay an allowance that reflects a woman’s actual value. Wouldn’t that reduce the number of people doing foolish things?
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
Questioner, you’ve got it completely wrong. Your thinking is rotten at its core, so let me set you straight.
“Try to anticipate the allowance a woman is hoping for, then offer her an allowance well above that amount. That way, even a short, fat, bald old man with bad breath has a better chance of an adult relationship (intimate).”
Personally, I think this is something male members should be told when they join.
—Loser Guy
Other
You do need to attend the initial setup meeting, but you can simply tell them there and it amounts to the same thing. Even just going there to say it will get you at least 5,000 yen.
Marika
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Kazu, a male member.
I think it’s because the club doesn’t get involved in allowances.