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Dec 20, 2021 20:39
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I wish both men and women who agree to 60,000 yen or less would leave. This isn't a place for people with low self-esteem; they'll only drive down the going rate and bring more broke people into papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan).
Apparently, some people develop feelings, wait around, and still only have sex, but that's honestly unbelievable.
Don't you agree?
If papa-katsu becomes something anyone can do, gender inequality will only get worse.
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Other
Likewise, if someone shows up saying that anyone offering 7 or less per pay-per-meeting is too cheap and should leave, then you should leave too, questioner.
“6? How cheap, lol.”
Marika
🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m in Seattle.
Do you know what “miman” means?
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m a male member who’s fully aware that I stick out like a sore thumb among the answerers here—the resident loser, so to speak.
I understand exactly what you’re trying to say. I’m actually the one running the “adult relationship (intimate), ¥60,000+ pay-per-meeting” campaign, if you will.
An allowance is practically the only measure of value for women, so of course they’re happier when it’s higher.
In fact, I give generous allowances to the women I care about. There’s one woman I’m effectively giving ¥100,000 per meeting.
Even the answerers here clearly understand how important an allowance is. When a male member asks why a woman left him, they dismiss it with:
“It’s because your allowance was too low.”
However, when a question is phrased like this, we’re forced to respond harshly. So I think you should simply ignore it and stick to your own papa-katsu style.
You seem to be completely surrounded by enemies, so let me say it once again: I fully understand what you’re trying to say, and I completely agree with you.
Keep at it. I’m rooting for you.
Just don’t forget to keep improving yourself.
Among the answerers here, I’m second from the top when it comes to the size of my allowances. And that’s not all—I prepare for my dates more thoroughly than anyone and provide the best possible dates. I’m often even approached by A-type women about an adult relationship (intimate).
When you’re confident that you’ve given it everything you’ve got, whatever other people say feels like nothing more than a mosquito bite—and being insulted actually becomes a source of pleasure.
I hope you reach that supreme level soon. Once you do, even ¥100,000 per meeting won’t be a dream.
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
You say you want to boost your self-esteem, yet you do papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan)? That makes no sense. Then just don’t do papa-katsu.
Besides, if women who receive higher allowances are considered more valuable, then by that same contradictory logic, men who pay lower allowances would also be considered more valuable… You need to understand that too.
—Paper Airplane
🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Flagmaker, a column writer.
I see them as two separate things. It’s simply a matter of matching two points: each person’s feelings and circumstances at that particular time. There’s no inherent right or wrong.
If anything, this question could be seen as pitting women against each other.
Other
Self-esteem?
Instead of just scratching the surface, learn properly before writing so arrogantly.
Or rather, your self-esteem is determined by the money you get for being with papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) men… lol
That’s pretty cheap and simplistic, isn’t it?
Akari
Other
I’m BB7.
You go on and on about self-esteem and other pointless excuses, but really, all you’re saying is:
“Give me more and more allowance! Money, money, money—give me money!!!”
That’s all it is, right?
Other
I’m Aya, a female member.
Men who judge women by “value for money” are fundamentally misguided and hopeless, whether they offer ¥50,000 or ¥100,000 per meeting… I dislike the way they think of it like a hostess bar advertising, “Enjoy yourself for just ¥10,000 for ● minutes.”
By the way, you said your current benchmark is “6,” but if you want ¥100,000 per meeting, I think you should leave Universe. It’s hard to imagine the type of clients who pay you ¥60,000 suddenly improving over the next few months.
I can’t say this too loudly, but you’ll get higher pay-per-meeting rates by working as a freelance hostess at an upscale club in Roppongi or Ginza, or by finding a papa (a male supporter) at a lounge in Nishiazabu or Roppongi. There are wealthy people there with truly enormous amounts of money.
That said, if you joined a dating club because you don’t want to deal with complicated relationships in the nightlife industry, force yourself to drink, and have your shifts constantly adjusted, then I think you’ll simply have to accept a lower pay-per-meeting allowance.
Other
I’m Osaka, a male member.
The fact that you think that way is reflected in and shapes the nature of your relationships. Won’t that determine whether suitable partners show up—or stick around?
If you’re going to preach male superiority, aren’t you the one upholding it more than anyone else? lol
If you’re fixated on the amount, won’t people take advantage of that? I think it’s pretty insulting, but I suppose some people are bound to be looked down on, so I’ll leave it at that lol
I often worry that I still have a lot to learn and plenty of shortcomings. There are also so many people I respect, so even if I wanted to become complacent, I couldn’t.
🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m columnist Fuu.
In this world, neither bargain shops nor luxury brand stores are ever going away.
As long as there’s demand for them, that’s impossible. Even if you say, “Get rid of all the bargain shops,” they won’t disappear.
Rather than wasting time criticizing them, you need to use every marketing strategy you can to survive as a luxury establishment. After all, the odds of surviving as a high-end option are overwhelmingly lower than surviving as a bargain one.
It has absolutely nothing to do with self-esteem. If you’re chosen by someone, you have to make them feel the value of the luxury experience and satisfy them enough to justify the premium. Otherwise, you’ll receive even harsher backlash than the bargain options, and your era will be over in no time.
Do your best to survive as a luxury option.
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Dai, a male member.
You’re just a woman who gets 6 or more and feels superior to other women because of it—a real one-upper.
How boring.
If everyone starts getting 7 or more, I suppose you’ll demand that men offering less than 7 be kicked out.
By the way, the person begging here—you—are actually the poorest one of all.
And please learn to use “or more” and “or less” correctly.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Kazu, a male member.
No, I don’t think so.
“Wouldn’t it be nice if the world revolved around my own standards?” What are you, a kindergartener?
Besides, once you get your wish and a pay-per-meeting allowance of 60,000 yen becomes the norm, you’ll just start saying that your self-esteem depends on getting 100,000 yen per meeting, won’t you?
Your self-esteem is tied to the size of your allowance? How shallow can you be? This is a dating club, not a prostitution club.
So, what’s your question?
You just tossed in a single question mark and called it a question. Do you think we’re idiots?