Will the practice of staff telling male members the going rates ever disappear?
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It goes without saying that information from the staff carries more weight than anything found online, and once someone says, “I heard it from the staff,” there’s really no way to compete.
I’m Dai, a male member.
The staff would never say anything like that. If they did, the club could be considered to be facilitating prostitution.
That said, even if a staff member were to mention an amount, it would probably be around 30,000–50,000 yen per meeting.
(I know some people have arrangements involving much higher amounts in reality, but for most men, that makes it less likely that the arrangement will work out…)
So if the woman told you the amount was 60,000 yen or more, she’s almost certainly lying.
However, if you’re unhappy even with being told 30,000–50,000 yen per meeting, then honestly, I don’t think a dating club is right for you.
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I’m Taro, a male member.
That’s probably just a bluff by the male member. If not, then he’s twisting your words. I really don’t think the Universe staff would ever say something like that. Other dating clubs may be different, but at least when it comes to Universe, they seem very strict about that.
More importantly, are you really going to accept those terms? If they don’t fit your conditions and you don’t feel willing to compromise, the basic answer should be no, shouldn’t it? Isn’t it strange to go along with it just because you can’t argue back? That’s not what a dating club is supposed to be. At a dating club, women can refuse if they’re uncomfortable.
On the other hand, if you’re unhappy about it but can still accept it, you’d make more money doing sex work. I’m not making fun of you—I’m being serious. It would be a waste.
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Maezawa from the President’s Office here as well.
It sounds like the man is trying to deceive you.
Our staff are not allowed to get involved in allowances, so even if a man asks, we won’t tell him the amount.
Of course, we’re asked about it often, but our standard response is something like:
“You can probably find that information online.”
> “When he says, ‘I heard it from a staff member,’ I have no way to argue back.”
That’s exactly why I think the man is lying. If you know that staff members won’t disclose such information, you can always play the bluffing game and say, “I heard from the staff that I can receive ¥〇〇,” but I feel like it would be pointless to fight over it.
So I’d suggest gently deflecting the comment without directly denying it, then saying something like:
“Even so, my expectation is ¥〇〇. Would that be difficult?”
And if it seems unlikely to work, you can simply end things with:
“Thank you for the enjoyable meal.”
The staff at Universe Club are also prohibited by company rules from telling anyone the going rate.
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I think men only say things like “that’s the going rate” or “that’s what the staff told me” to make the amount they have in mind sound more credible.
Marika
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I’m Fuu, a column writer.
I think you should simply set your own allowance and decide not to date anyone who offers less than that.
The club staff don’t say things like that—it’s just something the men are saying on their own.
A man who says things like that isn’t trustworthy. And if he can’t make his own decisions or negotiate, why not just avoid seeing him and move on? It doesn’t sound like anything good will come of it.
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I’m Kazu, a male member.
I’ve never heard that.
Isn’t that just something men say?
Also, the allowance rates you find by Googling don’t match my own experience.
For one thing, I think they’re wrong to begin with, judging by the fact that they’re listed by class.
P.S.
Come to think of it, women occasionally say, “The person who introduced me to Universe told me the going rate was X.”
That tells you whether the scout is someone who takes their work seriously or just does a slapdash job.
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I’m Nana Ayase ☆
Do the staff really tell women what the going rates are?
I’ve never heard of that…
I only learned roughly what the going rates are through this Q&A site, so would the staff actually say something like that to women?
That’s honestly the first I’ve heard of it.
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