I’m a Black-tier member who’s been having fairly good experiences. I dislike and want to avoid money-minded women like the one in the previous post, “Even if the woman offers a low allowance (50,000 yen or less).” How do you distinguish them before and after meeting them?
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It’s not that I don’t have money—in fact, there are some wonderful women I end up giving even more to. But I have no interest in associating with women who think the way described above, and I consider them not even worth 10,000 yen. I’m a member who’s a little better off financially.
I’m a male member who goes by Paper Airplane.
> How do you tell the difference before and after meeting someone?
I don’t continue seeing women who bring up the allowance.
At the moment, I’m not continuing with women who stated the amount they wanted, brought up the allowance themselves, or said they’d leave it up to me.
If she’s a black-tier member, that kind of high-value feedback is precious among the men, so I think the staff will tell you if you ask.
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Maezawa from the CEO’s office here, with an answer as well.
When a man says he doesn’t like women who are all about money, I can’t help wondering: if a woman said, “Any amount is fine,” would he really give her 100,000 or 200,000 yen?
In the end, don’t they give only a small amount even to a woman who is the absolute opposite of money-minded and says, “Any amount is fine”?
They might even say things like, “You need money? I thought this was dating.”
I feel that men who say they hate women who are all about money often fail to realize that they themselves may be just as money-minded.
Of course, I understand not liking someone who makes everything about money, or who keeps saying, “Buy me this” and “Buy me that.”
But disliking a woman simply because she says she wants a certain amount for her allowance is completely different from her being money-minded.
Being money-minded means saying things like:
“Buy me this and that.”
“If you want me to do this, give me more money.”
It refers to a woman who tries to put a monetary value on everything she does.
I wish people would realize that assuming a woman is money-minded just because she states her desired amount may actually mean they’re the ones being money-minded.
A man who isn’t money-minded will simply part ways gracefully if their expectations for the allowance don’t match.
He won’t think she’s a person to avoid just because she’s money-minded; he’ll see it as nothing more than their expectations being different.
Lately, I feel like there are people trying to steer the conversation in some strange direction.
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I’m Fuu, a column writer.
You can’t really tell from someone’s profile, so you have to meet them and decide then. In my case, it took about 10 offers on average before I found someone I wanted to see on a monthly arrangement. Of course, sometimes I found someone after just three offers, while other times it took around 15—it’s just an average.
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I’m Dai, a male member.
Like the person who asked the question, I’ve always felt that I don’t want to make offers to women like that either.
If she’s a blacklisted member, I think the best thing to do is ask the club representative whether she’s overly focused on money before making an offer.
Personally, I try not to make offers to women with hostess-club experience, or to those who seem to be supporting themselves solely through papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), such as women who are unemployed or working part-time.
Lately, I’ve also started avoiding making offers to female college students…
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I’m Date◎Yume, a male member.
I’m one of the broke guys at the dating club.
> “I don’t think she’s even worth ¥10,000...”
I think that one comment says it all.
In my case, if something about her makes me think, “Hmm...,” I’d probably assume she’s the type who’s all about the money.
That said, I still haven’t actually met a woman like that yet（笑）
This incident definitely made me realize how prevalent suspected “dating-type scams” are（笑）
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Whether an allowance is “high” or “low” is subjective anyway. As long as both parties agree, feel free to settle on any amount you like—from nothing to billions.
On this Q&A site, I won’t give simplistic answers like “the going rate is this much” (though lately, a lot of people seem eager to do so), nor will I teach you how to identify women who don’t need money.
In reality, I think even the same woman may date one man without any money involved, while receiving hundreds of thousands of yen from another.
Marika
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I’m Flag Maker, a column writer.
I don’t try to judge or distinguish between them. That woman and I are connected by that allowance amount—nothing more, nothing less.
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I’m a losing male member.
① Women being all about money
② Men being all about beautiful women
have almost the same meaning.
So, if you make offers based solely on text information without looking at any of the women’s profile photos or videos, I think the chances of matching with the kind of money-focused woman you’re referring to would drop considerably.
I like beautiful women, so even if a woman I make an offer to is money-focused, it doesn’t bother me—in fact, I wouldn’t even consider her money-focused.
I think, “It’s only natural that a beautiful woman wants money. Beauty costs a fortune to maintain…”
And if you don’t like women who are all about money, you can simply avoid making offers to beautiful women.
From what I can tell, your position is:
“I want beautiful women, but women shouldn’t want money.”
Apparently, people call that “Jianism.”
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I’m Kazu, a male member.
I think you’ll be able to tell when you discuss the allowance. You can’t know before meeting, so I believe all you can do is meet first and decide from there.
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