Men who get women to agree to a low allowance (50,000 yen or less) are really pitiful, aren't they?
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I set different asking prices depending on whether a man seems short on money (has little he can spend on women) or not. Even a man with limited spending power might gradually pay more if you take the time to cultivate him, but I'm not short on papas, so I don't bother with that kind of tedious negotiating.
The other day, a man I’ve met several times told me, “You’re the one who’s asked for the highest allowance I’ve ever been quoted.” For me, though, that amount is actually lower than usual. The reason I told him that amount was because, after hearing about his occupation, personality, and past experiences with women from the club, I felt that was probably his limit. He seemed to have been active with the club for quite a long time and had met quite a few women. Even so, the fact that my amount—not even 50,000 yen—was the highest made me feel that, from the other women’s perspective too, he must look like someone who simply can’t afford to pay much. In reality, I thought my usual asking price would have been completely out of his reach.
For me, nothing would ever develop into a relationship for 50,000 yen. That’s because there are many more men who offer several times that amount. Among the men offering generous allowances, there are also many wonderful people, so choosing to have a relationship with someone for just 50,000 yen would be incredibly disrespectful to them. And if I accepted arrangements like that, I’d end up with an endless number of papas and risk catching an STI, so I don’t do it.
There are men on this Q&A site who brag about developing relationships while paying low allowances, but from a woman’s perspective, isn’t it simply because she thinks, “This man is cheap and probably doesn’t have much money,” and agrees to it? Is being able to date someone for such a small allowance really something to brag about? The number of times you can meet isn’t the point. I think what matters more is how much you can give a woman each time.
In response to a question posted a little while ago, I wrote:
“I’m Hikōki, a male member.
If everyone at dating clubs becomes focused solely on the allowance, the clubs will go under.
People who genuinely want to enjoy dating probably feel strongly that the allowance doesn’t matter to them.”
But my answer was hidden just a minute later…?
From a man’s perspective, the amount of the allowance doesn’t really matter—whether it’s high or low. In the end, isn’t it simply about which one leaves you feeling better?
It’s kind of like buying an expensive designer brand: sometimes it feels great, sometimes it doesn’t, and sometimes you just get tired of it…
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Some women are willing to put up with dating men they aren’t attracted to if they receive a large allowance, while others are fine with a smaller allowance—or even none at all—if they like the man. I think this is because many people believe that a man’s appeal and the amount of his allowance are inversely proportional.
This is my response to the following part at the end of your long, self-congratulatory post:
“Is being able to date someone for such a small allowance really something to brag about?”
I can’t help wondering whether your papa (a male supporter) actually enjoys taking you on dates while paying you that much. Though I’m sure you put on a good act in front of him.
Personally, I dislike people who act differently depending on who they’re with, regardless of gender.
Your sharp wording brought out a bit of the nasty woman in me, too.
Marika
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I’m Fuu, a column writer.
As for your questioner, feel free to do as you please.
Please clearly state in your profile:
“Please don’t make an offer if you only provide a low allowance.”
I think it’ll save both sides from wasting time.
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I’m Osaka, a male member.
Do you realize that many people dislike you because of comments like this?
I’m guessing you do, lol.
This is the kind of thing you should keep hidden deep in your heart, but as a man, I honestly want to avoid women who think this way. I truly mean that.
Basically, you’re saying:
“I’m a high-value woman who sometimes lowers myself enough to give lesser men a chance, but those men still don’t understand. Men should be ashamed that I see them that way and have some pride. Aren’t you embarrassed?”
That’s what you mean, right?
Please realize that people also find it embarrassing that you attach so much value to such trivial things.
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I’m Flag Maker, a column writer.
An extra ¥50,000 or so a month on top of my salary would be plenty. I’m busy with work and want to value my private life too, so I’d be happy seeing one guy two or three times a month—someone I can spend time with casually, half like a friend, without any stress.
Women like that do exist. It’s not like every woman is like the one who asked this question.
Rather than thinking, “I’m amazing for getting a woman who wants an allowance to accept such a low amount,” it’s simply that I happened to meet a woman like the one I described above. The women who agreed to ¥50,000 or ¥30,000 a month with me were like that.
From a man’s perspective, this is a pretty dreamy story, don’t you think? lol
There really are goddesses like that somewhere in this vast universe. It’s not a myth, lol.
And personally, I end up thinking, “What a pitiful woman,” about women who can’t move forward into a relationship with me because they’re fixated only on the amount of money.
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Maezawa from the president’s office here as well.
Um… the question, the question… where is it again?
Oh—
“Isn’t the amount a woman can receive in one meeting the biggest factor? Do other people feel the same way?”
Is that it?
Of course, I think that’s true.
But in reality, just as women assess men, men assess women too.
(When a man says the amount is fixed, I assume he means, “I don’t assess women that way.”)
So even if you name the amount you want because you’d like to receive more, there may be times when every man turns you down, saying that amount is impossible. It’s not easy.
If you’re not short on men, then you should absolutely go for higher amounts. That’s only natural.
At Universe, there are also men who can offer more than ¥200,000 if they feel a woman is worth it. If you believe you have that value, it’s only natural to ask for more.
An unknown painter can ask someone to buy their painting for ¥100 million, but that probably won’t happen. If it were a Picasso, though, plenty of people might say, “¥100 million? That’s cheap,” and buy it.
In the end, it comes down to whether someone sees value in it.
People who dislike high prices probably think it’s ridiculous that Picasso’s paintings cost hundreds of millions of yen. There’s no point arguing with them—they can simply choose not to buy the painting. I’m not saying those people should be forced to buy expensive art.
But people who say things like:
“Picasso’s paintings are way too expensive.”
“Make them cheaper.”
“What is this place doing—pushing people toward higher prices?”
seem a little different to me.
> Is being able to date someone for such a small allowance really something to brag about?
I think it can be.
If you said you bought an authentic Picasso for ¥100,000, I think most people would be impressed.
Of course, some might say, “How did you trick the other person?” or “That’s fraud.”
But if you used your connections to acquire it for ¥100,000, people might think, “What incredible connections,” or, “Maybe this person is that attractive and influential.”
So I think more people would see it as something worth bragging about.
On the other hand, if you look at it differently, you could say that the woman was deceived into accepting less, which does make it a form of fraud. So I also understand what the person asking the question is trying to say.
This is a rather complicated issue.
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