I had a papa (a male supporter) who refused to give me any allowance, saying that a trip was instead of an allowance.
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We could stay somewhere nice, but I had to keep him company morning and night without receiving any allowance. It irritated me, and I didn’t feel it was a fair exchange at all.
Does a trip count as the equivalent of an allowance?
I tried to bring it up gently several times because I didn’t want to come across as overly focused on money, but he still wouldn’t give me any allowance and kept brushing me off, so I was fed up and ended things.
Even if we stayed somewhere reasonably nice and he paid for everything, I still wouldn’t feel satisfied.
It seemed like he was trying to convince me that this was normal without any allowance. Apparently, he has several other ongoing arrangements, and he seemed to think they were all fine with receiving no allowance.
Is it normal not to receive any allowance on a trip?
I wasn’t okay with it, but I couldn’t bring myself to say anything firmly, so it left me feeling unsettled.
I’m a male member, and my username is Paper Airplane.
Healthy papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) means receiving an allowance from someone you’d want to meet even without one.
If you only want to meet someone because of the allowance, though, that’s what it comes down to…
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I’m Flag Maker, a column writer.
I think it’s perfectly normal to receive an allowance.
That said, even if I’m paying an allowance, I’m not really into going on trips together.
The nighttime part is fine.
But then I wake up the next morning, and while I’m putting scrambled eggs on my plate at the breakfast buffet, I suddenly think:
“What am I even doing?”
It leaves me with this indescribable feeling（笑）
A day-trip hot spring is plenty for me.
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I’m Aya, a female member.
I’m totally fine going without an allowance with my monthly-arrangement papa, but otherwise, it’s normal to receive an allowance for a trip, isn’t it? I think that papa is the one being unreasonable.
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I’m a male member—in other words, a loser.
When we travel, I give her the allowance for an adult relationship without actually having one. I plan trips so she can enjoy the trip itself, not so we can have an adult relationship. I’ve never taken a trip for that purpose.
The time commitment is incredibly long, after all.
For a pay-per-meeting girl who normally has an adult relationship:
One-night trip
Allowance of 10 + actual travel expenses + a souvenir
Two-night trip
Allowance of 20 + actual travel expenses + a souvenir
That’s about how I do it. There’s no adult relationship during the trip. Even if she’s sleeping next to me in a suggestive outfit, with her thighs or cleavage showing, I don’t get aroused. I’m in hospitality mode while we’re traveling.
I often book two rooms, too. Makeup and everything can be a hassle, so sometimes we sleep separately.
If you ask for an adult relationship every time you meet, the woman’s heart gradually closes off. So I see trips as a gift to help her open up to me.
I take them wherever they want to go. I enjoy seeing how happy they are. I’m not forcing myself to do this, either. I’m completely fine with it.
I don’t understand why everyone wants to have sex so badly. Normally I have a very high sex drive and am energetic enough in the morning to sound like a percussion instrument, but this is different.
Preparation is important. I’m ugly, poorly endowed, and absolutely terrible at sex, so I take my time with foreplay during trips and regular dinner dates.
Ah… in the end, do I just want to have sex after all? I’m the worst. (Sweat)
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I’m Tetsu, a male member.
There’s no way that not providing an allowance should be considered standard. You’re not wrong to trust your own judgment.
I’ve traveled with women without giving them an allowance before, but that was because the women planned the trips. If the trip is arranged by the man, then of course he should provide an allowance.
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I’m Kazu, a male member.
I don’t think there’s any one “normal” way to do things.
For reference, in my case, I asked whether this amount would be enough as an allowance for the trip. She replied, “Since you’re taking me somewhere I want to go, I’d feel bad accepting anything.” But I told her it was important to me to keep things clear and proper, so she accepted it.
If you’re not comfortable with the terms, I think you should either not go or end things.
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I don’t think that’s normal.
It’s best to discuss things in advance, but that can be difficult, can’t it?
From next time on, don’t go traveling with that person.
That’s what I would do.
Marika
Oh, so you ended things with him.
I think that was a good decision.
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