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On average, how many years do women continue with an arrangement club?

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Also, I feel like amounts such as ¥300,000 a month or ¥150,000 per meeting are nothing more than a pipe dream, but are there actually women who receive that much? Is it really impossible to get a generous allowance unless you’re at the very top level?
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I’m Aya, a female member. I wrapped up my papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) search for a papa (a male supporter) in just under two years. These days, I’m seeing several stable papas. I tend to end up in monthly arrangements, and I think a monthly allowance of 300,000 yen is вполне realistic. That said, it’s not usually a case of someone handing you 300,000 yen right after you meet. Rather, the amount gradually increases as trust is built—150,000, then 200,000, 300,000, and 400,000 yen. As for whether someone’s social class is related to the allowance, I’m not sure because I don’t know any classes other than the one I belonged to. Sorry.
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Fuu
🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Fuu, a columnist. The length of time female members stay registered varies. Some receive lots of offers soon after joining and then leave, while others remain members for three years or more. High allowances are probably extremely rare, but at a dating club, they can happen if you’re lucky enough to receive an offer from a wealthy older patron. It’s a nice dream, isn’t it? Class may not matter at all—everyone has different tastes. For example, a super-rich company president might prefer ordinary, unworldly, innocent, youthful-looking women.
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紙ひこうき
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中! B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです! 会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Paper Airplane, probably the male member offering the lowest allowance for an adult relationship among the respondents. I think how long an arrangement continues depends largely on the man the woman meets. For a woman who has just joined, if she meets a man who makes her feel, “It’s such a hassle meeting anyone else,” she may no longer feel the need to accept other offers or continue with the club. For a popular woman who has had long-term arrangements and a steady stream of offers, if she finally meets someone easygoing and enjoyable after getting tired of meeting men who only want an adult relationship, she may at last be able to take a break or leave the club. So I think it largely comes down to: What kind of man can she meet? In that case, factors besides the allowance amount are also very important. I imagine there are women receiving 40, 50, or even more per pay-per-meeting arrangement. From what I’ve heard, some of them receive that even without an adult relationship. As I’ve mentioned before, I personally feel uncomfortable with allowances specifically for an adult relationship. I believe there’s unlimited potential in increasing the compensation based on the woman’s value as a person instead. > Is it impossible to receive a high allowance? I don’t continue seeing women who think that way or who state that as their desired allowance. Please be careful not to end up unable to maintain an arrangement with a man while simply chasing one-off allowances.
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負け男
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m a male member, and honestly, I’m one of the losers. I’m active only through Universe Club, and I’m currently seeing several women who receive either ¥15,000 per meeting or ¥300,000+ per month. In my particular case, for example, a woman who initially agrees to ¥10,000 per meeting may voluntarily put in more effort than I would expect for that amount. Then the allowance might increase to ¥120,000 per month, then ¥150,000, then ¥200,000, or eventually become a monthly arrangement. In other words, one thing is that it’s rare for women to suggest ¥15,000 per meeting from the start. The other major factor, I think, is whether they voluntarily make that extra effort. I can’t directly say, “I’d like you to do more of this,” so I’m basically left waiting. People on this forum often say that a papa shouldn’t expect anything in return, but in reality, I think everyone expects some kind of return. Am I wrong? That said, the higher the allowance, the more likely it is that the man may eventually be the one to end things, so it’s a difficult issue. I’ve been struggling a lot with the amount of the allowance myself and have even consulted my club representative. I have a good representative, so I’m trying to improve things little by little. I do want to give as much as I can, but I feel that may actually be why these relationships haven’t lasted. I used to routinely offer ¥17,000 per meeting on the first date, but now I’ve stopped doing that and usually start at around ¥10,000 per meeting. Incidentally, the woman who received the highest allowance from me was Platinum—though that’s in the past. Most of the women I keep in touch with are Platinum or Gold. I get the impression that things don’t last as long with Black women. Also, there isn’t much difference in the initial allowance I offer, whether they’re Black or Gold. Update: Tomorrow evening, I have my first dinner date with a Gold Type B woman. I’m planning to offer ¥10,000.
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カズ
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Kazu, a male member. I think there’s simply too much variation—just as there is with allowances—to calculate an average length of time people stay active. The most common case I see is women leaving after around three to six months because they signed up but didn’t receive as many offers as they’d hoped, their arrangements didn’t last, or they couldn’t find the kind of partner they were looking for. A compensated relationship isn’t for everyone, and I think luck also plays a major role in meeting someone you feel is worth making concessions for. When women do find an arrangement that continues, I imagine a certain percentage remain active for several years. Among those who stay active for several years, some will eventually quit because they get married or their living circumstances change. Then there’s a small handful of women who are particularly suited to it and continue club activities for more than ten years. So I don’t think it’s really possible to come up with a meaningful average. ¥150,000 per meeting would be extremely difficult. There are probably women who actually receive that much, but I doubt they make up even 1% of the female members. I mention this because some people might think Universe Club is underwhelming when they hear this, but even at a major dating club where women can include their desired allowance in their profiles, I’ve never seen a request for a five-figure allowance per meeting. As for ¥300,000 a month, I think that’s quite realistic if you drop the ¥150,000-per-meeting condition. For example, meeting six times a month at ¥50,000 per meeting doesn’t seem unusual at all. A woman’s class has absolutely nothing to do with her allowance. Come to think of it, shortly after I joined, I made an offer to a B-type Gold woman whose desired allowance was ¥100,000 pay-per-meeting. She said a man she’d met previously had given her ¥100,000, but I declined. She eventually left the club about six months after joining. It made me wonder whether, in the end, that experience was really good for her. Women who have that kind of success early on can easily misjudge things in various ways.
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ダイ
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Dai, a male member. I’d say staying for more than a year would probably count as a long time. Looking back at my offer history, only about 10–20% of the women I made offers to up through last year are still active. I imagine they take a break or leave once they find a good man. I’ve never personally offered an allowance of 300,000 yen per month or 150,000 yen per meeting, but I’ve had an adult relationship (intimate) several times with women who said they were receiving amounts like that. Some were Black members, and some were Platinum members. This comes up almost every time, but rank has nothing to do with it. On the contrary, I doubt men who determine the allowance based on a woman’s rank would ever offer 300,000 yen per month or 150,000 yen per meeting.
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