Teramoto from the Tokyo branch of Universe Club here.
Thank you for your question.
Regardless of the dating type, we ask members to plan on the first date lasting four hours.
However, many male and female members feel that four hours is far too long for “dinner only (no intimacy).” Therefore, during the gentleman’s consultation, we explain:
“We tell the woman that the date will last four hours, but this is only a guideline. If four hours feels too long for dinner only, you may end the date before the four hours are up.”
During the woman’s interview, we explain:
“Please set aside four hours for the first date. We understand that four hours may feel long if it’s dinner only, but within that four-hour timeframe, please leave the amount of time and the date plan up to the gentleman. Please don’t assume on your own that the date will last only two hours simply because it’s ‘just dinner.’ However, if the gentleman says that dinner is over after two hours and suggests ending the date, you may of course leave.”
We hope this is helpful.
I’m Tetsu, a male member.
Under the current rules, I think it’s a little odd for the club to say, “Type A is two hours.” Since they state that the standard length for a first date is four hours, the type shouldn’t matter. If Type A is meant to be two hours, that should be clearly established as a rule.
That’s the official line, anyway. In reality, I think it’s a bit harsh to keep a woman for four hours on a first dinner-only date. Especially when the allowance is just transportation costs plus a little extra. Being considerate about that will probably make her more comfortable meeting you again.
I’m a male member, “Paper Airplane.”
I’ve heard an A-type woman say the same thing, so I believe that’s how it works. Since the club can’t get involved in adult relationships, I assume it’s without any adult relationship.
It’s fine to end the date after either two or four hours.
Regardless of type, newer members generally don’t have plans scheduled afterward. With an A-type woman, though, if there’s nothing else to do after dinner, the date will naturally come to an end. If she hasn’t exceeded your expectations or you don’t feel like continuing, you may also want to wrap things up before the two hours are over.
Also, rather than focusing on the number of hours, I think the more important question is whether you can have an enjoyable date in two hours—and whether you can still enjoy yourselves over four or six hours.
I’m Maezawa from the CEO’s office, and I’ll answer this as well.
For Type B, the arrangement is supposed to be dinner only on the first day, after which you part ways. However, some women actually don’t mind Type C, but choose Type B because they feel it would be harder to turn down an invitation to an adult relationship (intimate) under Type C.
There are also men who invite women out on the first day, even though they shouldn’t, since the first day is supposed to be dinner only.
Because of this, the club may possibly be telling people to allow four hours.
That said, if Type A were being described as four hours, it would clearly be odd, so I believe they generally explain that Type A is only two hours. At least, that’s how I handled it when I was there.
However, the way things are handled on the ground may have changed, and there may be some reason why even Type A is now being described as four hours. I think it would be best to read the wording in the offer carefully.
Still, four hours just for dinner seems strange, and saying it’s because you might go out for drinks afterward also feels odd for a first date.
I feel that sort of thing should start from the second meeting onward.
I’d feel discouraged if I were expected to spend four hours together on the first day and then didn’t receive an allowance, so I suspect they may still be describing Type A as two hours—but I haven’t confirmed it.
(Let’s wait and see if another staff member answers.)
P.S. Hmm, if they’re currently telling people it’s four hours, that’s pretty harsh.
Originally, the guidance was to use four hours as a guideline—two hours for dinner plus another two hours afterward. So telling a Type A woman it’s four hours makes you wonder: four hours for what afterward?
Maybe they mean going out for drinks, karaoke, or to an aquarium?
But in a dating club, an allowance is supposed to be provided after dinner. Most men don’t give an allowance after dinner unless it leads to intimacy, right? In fact, it feels like that’s what almost everyone does.
If that’s the case, then if women are being told to allow four hours, men should also be told that when they invite someone to continue the date after dinner, they need to clearly state how much the allowance will be and proceed only after both parties agree.
That explanation should apply whether they’re going out for drinks or visiting an aquarium.
But telling only the women that it’s four hours, without explaining this to the men, seems pretty unfair.
If they went back to the old arrangement of two hours for dinner and two hours afterward, women wouldn’t end up being stuck for four hours without knowing what to expect.
It’s quite a mess.
