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Sep 26, 2025 22:39
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I haven’t changed it. Even if prices fluctuate downward, I wouldn’t negotiate for a lower allowance.
Ultimately, the amount is whatever both the man and woman can agree on, so I think it’s determined by the balance between them in practice.
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Age: 50s
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With the economy being so bad, and with dating apps, hookup apps, and street-based sex work becoming more common, it feels like arrangements have actually become cheaper overall.
Women who can command a high allowance are expected to offer a certain level of quality. These days, I feel that simply being attractive isn’t enough to get a high allowance.
If someone is inattentive, passive, and not very giving, there’s no reason to pay a high allowance. If that’s the level you’re going to get anyway, you can just go with one of the cheaper women.
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Allowances have become increasingly polarized.
Women who command high allowances are getting more than before, while those who charge less are getting even less.
The highest allowance I pay goes to a girl I continued giving a monthly allowance to even when we weren’t meeting. We recently resumed things after a six-month break, but I don’t think she’ll want an adult relationship (intimate) anymore.
Even so, I’ll continue paying the agreed monthly allowance, whether we meet or not, and regardless of whether we have an adult relationship (intimate) when we do meet.
The women who accept lower allowances usually ask for 50,000 or 60,000 yen for an adult relationship (intimate), but I’ve never managed to continue seeing any of them long-term.
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As I’ve written before, if all women banded together and refused to accept an allowance below a certain amount, allowances would go up.
The problem is getting all women to cooperate. Someone may claim to be part of the agreement but still want to accept a lower allowance, and then it turns into, “Others charge much less—you’re asking for too much.” As a result, allowances across the board end up falling.
For example, on dating sites, it seems that quite a few teenage women are now setting their allowance at ¥10,000 for going all the way. As if that weren’t already surprising enough, some are even offering less than ¥10,000 to compete. It’s practically a price war.
That said, since they’re charging less, they seem to be limiting it to around 30 minutes, so calculated over three hours, it would come to ¥60,000. In that sense, it actually seems like a fairly clever setup.
Men feel that ¥10,000 is cheap, while for women, the hourly rate works out to the same as ¥60,000 for a typical person. So I guess you could call it a win-win relationship—the phrase that was popular a little while ago.
From another perspective, it’s also a system where attractive women compete based on their looks, while other women compete on price.
Everyone has their own strategy, but it feels like they’re all working hard to find an arrangement they’re comfortable with.
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名古屋支店登録で、男性会員としての登録名もマックさんです。コラム多数書いてますのでよろしければご参照ください。20代の細身女性が好みで逆オファーには前向きです。経験無いまたは少ない方大歓迎。
Age: 60s
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What are often called travel expenses or an allowance aren’t tied to the cost of living. They’re payments for a service, so there’s no underlying cost.
They’re largely determined by the balance between supply (the number of women) and demand (the number of men). And when supply exceeds demand, things with no underlying cost are especially prone to price drops.
Age: Private
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People aren’t commodities, and an allowance isn’t a price tag, so I haven’t raised it.