That’s not presumptuous at all.
There’s a woman from the Gold Class B category who’s been in a monthly arrangement with me for four years, at 11 per pay-per-meeting. She’s basically the behind-the-scenes boss of all my regulars, and we’ve built a solid relationship of trust—but she hardly ever agrees to meet me at all (；∀；)
I wonder if she’s the only one I’m the one reaching out to and saying, “I want to see you.”
The other women tell me they like me or love me even outside of intimate moments, but she absolutely never says she likes me—not even during an intimate moment.
That said, she isn’t distant. I always pick her up from work and take her home to her apartment, and we’ve built such a strong relationship that there’s hardly anything we don’t know about each other. Things are passionate between us, and we always end up going all the way.
She doesn’t have a boyfriend and has no desire to get married. She’s such a fascinating girl. I really like her (sorry for being creepy, haha).
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There was someone like that, but I turned him down.
Then, about a year later, he told me that since he wasn’t getting any offers, he’d be happy to meet me for the allowance Fuu had offered.
I had made the offer because I found him attractive, so we went on a date and had sex. But he was completely passive and seemed to be doing it out of obligation, so I wasn’t satisfied and we didn’t continue seeing each other. That’s something I’ve experienced in the past.
A papa (a male supporter) won’t continue unless he feels you’re providing value that matches the allowance. Especially when it comes to an adult relationship (intimate)—there are plenty of other papa-katsu girls competing for the same men.
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I’ve often been told 70,000–80,000 yen for women in the Gold category.
The real question is whether the arrangement can be established and maintained.
I think there are quite a few men who are willing to try it once.
I recently tried an arrangement with a Platinum woman for 70,000 yen as well.
Since I see other women for 50,000 yen, I ended up concluding that it wasn’t really worth that much.
Continuing at 70,000 yen is not easy.
At clubs, 90% of women will agree to 50,000 yen, and if you Google the going rate for papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), you’ll find that the median amount on apps is commonly listed as 30,000 yen.
So whether someone will continue paying you 70,000 yen depends entirely on your value, though that may sound harsh.
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No, I don’t think it’s presumptuous, since there’s no connection between class and allowance. The amount of allowance someone hopes for is up to them.
In my case, I don’t think it’s a waste of time, but if our expectations don’t match, I simply don’t go through with the arrangement.
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It depends on the date and what’s involved.
Why focus only on the allowance?
If I really like someone, I’ll offer 70,000 yen or more, even for a Gold-class member.
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On the other hand, if I’m spending money on meals, hotels, or shopping, the allowance can be under 50,000 yen, even for a Black-class member. Offering an allowance without considering anything else feels more like a sex-service transaction.
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Women aren’t told their class, so this would be an unnatural question for a woman to ask.
Even if you heard it from a man, you wouldn’t know your class until he told you, so I don’t think you can decide on the allowance and class before meeting him.
If you’re talking about offers from the second man onward, and you’re saying you asked the first man, then the allowance you agreed to with the first man seems to be the correct answer.
If it was lower than 7, but you’re asking whether you should set it at 7, then at that point it’s no longer about your class. It becomes a question of whether you yourself have enough appeal to justify a 7.
If you believe you’re worth 7, then you should go with 7. If the other person says that’s too much, it just means he’s broke—or that he failed to recognize your appeal.
You should think along the lines of, “He doesn’t realize what he missed by failing to appreciate me. What a shame for him.”
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