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Aug 23, 2025 12:12
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He was someone who took me from dinner straight to a hotel from our very first meeting. Since I usually see several papas in one day, a date would tie me up for the whole day, so it feels like a waste of time. I can make ¥150,000–¥300,000 just by seeing two or three papas.
For dates, I do charge an extra ¥20,000 on top of the adult relationship (intimate) allowance, but the fact is that I can still earn more by seeing several people for shorter periods.
If it were around ¥120,000, I’d be fine with spending the whole day with one person, but what would you do in this situation?
Recently, he’s also been suggesting a trip to Okinawa. Is ¥200,000–¥300,000 usually the going rate for a trip?
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🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
Since you accepted it once, it became the default. You should have declined the first date by saying you weren’t available or already had plans.
At this point, the papa is clearly completely smitten with you. If you tell him the price for something like a trip and both you and your papa are happy with it, then I suppose that’s fine, but…
I feel like you need to find the right balance—not lean into it too much or get him overly serious. Otherwise, things could get messy or complicated later.
Since you’re doing papa-katsu professionally with double-booked dates, it seems like you should stop with the serious romantic-sounding approach as much as possible, keep things dry, and create some distance. Don’t get too close, but don’t let him cut things off either—maybe just make the intimate side really good?
Just my two cents, though, lol.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
>It’s true that you can earn more by seeing multiple people for short periods of time.
At that point, though, it’s basically the adult entertainment industry—or individual sex work (compensated dating). If he’s a man you met through a dating club, dinner plus a hotel is more typical.
That said, you mentioned that a date would tie you up for the entire day. So if by “date” he means meeting around noon and parting at night, rather than just a one- or two-hour meal, and the issue is the amount of time involved, I think it would be better to politely turn it down.
On the other hand, if you’re confident that he’s completely smitten with you and would be willing to pay even ¥120,000 as an allowance, then I think you should negotiate for ¥120,000.
(Of course, for the usual dinner-plus-hotel arrangement, you can let him choose while keeping the allowance at the current amount.)
I also think it would be better to turn down the trip tactfully.
If he realizes that you’re expecting an allowance and offers ¥200,000–¥300,000, then you could go. That seems reasonable to me.
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🏅 デート開拓者
ユニバース5年目。女性とはいろいろな商業施設に行ってデートしています。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
Women from an upscale dating club aren’t escorts, so I think going on dates is perfectly normal.
That said, if the date takes up the entire day, I would pay what I normally would for two adult meetings.
Whether it’s a date or a trip, you can simply negotiate the amount you want with the other person.
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
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I met a PJ who makes around ¥5 million a month doing papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) full-time, and she taught me quite a few things.
- Generous (well-paying) papas are nice, but they tend to fade out quickly.
- So it’s more stable income-wise to have a large number of moderately paying papas.
That was more or less what she said. She’s a Black-class woman with a high-profile job.
She currently sets her allowance at ¥60,000 and would like to raise it to ¥70,000, but she’s worried that demand—and therefore her income—would drop significantly at that price.
> “If it’s around ¥120,000, I wouldn’t mind seeing just one person a day. What do you think?”
For that reason, I think it’s better to avoid a ¥120,000 papa.
Next week, I have a first meeting with a woman who wants ¥100,000 pay-per-meeting. Once it goes above ¥100,000, I’ll be competing for a spot with the top tier of my monthly arrangements, so I expect my relationship with this woman will probably end after just one meeting.
> “Lately, I’ve also been getting offers to go on trips to Okinawa. Is ¥200,000–¥300,000 the going rate for a trip?”
I once went on a trip to Okinawa with a Black-class woman I met through Universe Club and paid ¥800,000 for three days and two nights. There was no adult relationship (intimate). It was incredibly fun.
With her, the arrangement had been pay-per-meeting, with ¥200,000 for an adult relationship.
These days, we go on dates without any allowance. Even when intimacy is involved, there’s no allowance. And whenever she invites me on a date without an allowance, it’s always the woman who initiates it.
There’s always someone above you, so I don’t know whether ¥800,000 for a three-day, two-night Okinawa trip with no adult relationship was expensive or cheap. Personally, I felt it was probably worth it.
Speaking of trips, I’m going on one this month with an A-type, teenage, innocent-looking college student who’s a virgin.
Since she’s A-type, I haven’t even held her hand yet, but she keeps insisting that she wants to go on an overnight trip.
Don’t underestimate this old man. I might eat you up! (I won’t, though.)
🏅 日没を遅らせる唯一の方法は日没に向かって走り続けることだ
名古屋支店登録で、男性会員としての登録名もマックさんです。コラム多数書いてますのでよろしければご参照ください。20代の細身女性が好みで逆オファーには前向きです。経験無いまたは少ない方大歓迎。
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
You seem like a professional papa-katsu woman, so I don’t think you need to be asking questions here. Do whatever you want. Though maybe you just want to chat since you don’t have any friends.
I’m at a malatang place with a young woman right now. Is this trendy lately? The place is packed with women. About 90% are around 20 and look like they really get around. And for some reason, they’re not exactly blessed in the looks department. Why is that?
The system and taste seem pretty similar to hot pot, but they only accept cash. It’s unusual for a Chinese-style place to be cash-only, but I have to admit, the simplicity is kind of refreshing. I’m genuinely grateful—I’d never come to a place like this if I weren’t dating younger women.