What would be a reasonable allowance for an adult relationship through a dating club?

Allowances vary. There are women like that from time to time, right? I’ve had women quote me 70,000 or 80,000 yen too. I tell them my amount, and if that doesn’t work for them, we just part ways after I cover their transportation. For some reason, I imagine younger, strong-willed women or women who seem like they work at a cabaret club will be expensive, so I don’t make them an offer. Alternatively, I’ll confirm the allowance beforehand on Patro and then make an offer. Personally, I tend to do one or the other.

Posts about allowances tend to cause a backlash, so leaving them up instead of deleting them is probably good for generating page views（笑） I basically don’t think market principles work in this world. A market rate is only established when the quality of what’s being offered is disclosed fairly and the excess demand is filtered accordingly. Statistically speaking, the only people who can reach that point are beautiful women with an E cup or larger. Everyone else is like a local hostess who refuses to lower her high asking price despite not being able to sell anything. Sounds like you unfortunately ran into the latter type（笑） If it’s 50,000–60,000 yen including dinner, the allowance would probably be 40,000 yen. That’s realistic. All of my monthly arrangements are at 40,000 yen, and in practice it comes to about that including dinner and the room. Someone once implied, “I guess your partners are pretty plain,” but they’re actually people who could support themselves solely through modeling, so I don’t think that’s true. Either way, they’re ideal supporters from my perspective, so there’s no room for debate. Take your time looking. It’s important to work on enhancing your own appeal, but choosing the right partner matters too. With all the options available, including apps, you should look for women who choose based on quality rather than money. I don’t recommend anyone under 20. They’re immature and probably haven’t adapted to the real appeal of dating clubs. Also, attractive women with large breasts receive plenty of offers, so the market naturally comes into play. It’s best to make an offer early, establish a precedent, and then see whether you can persuade her to stay with you. Also, clubs tend to steer people toward higher allowances because it’s easier to attract women that way—whether consciously or unconsciously. Personally, even if the going rate rises, I don’t think it’ll go from 50,000 to 60,000, 70,000, 80,000 yen. I think the next step after 50,000 would be 100,000. I mean, wouldn’t it be a hassle otherwise? If money isn’t your main motivation, that is. The fact that you’re even having that discussion means you’re already thinking all about money（笑） Taro

By the way, if the questioner’s daughter were 19, what allowance for an adult relationship would you, as a parent, consider acceptable? Would you say, “Whoa, that’s way too much. Isn’t around 60,000 yen more reasonable?” if she were offered 80,000 yen? The allowances women offered me this year were: Lowest: 50,000 yen Highest: 200,000 yen Leaving out 50,000 and 200,000 as extreme figures, the going rate is around 70,000 yen. I received offers from about 20 women. > I was thinking around 50,000–60,000 yen for an adult relationship plus a meal. > Was I being unrealistic? Not at all. You just need to make offers to women who are willing to accept 50,000–60,000 yen. People say my allowances are high, but that’s only because I don’t make offers to women who would be happy with 50,000 yen on a pay-per-meeting basis. I make offers to women who would ask for 200,000 yen per meeting, so naturally, that’s what they end up asking for.

Women around 18 to 22 are in high demand, so I think 8 is a reasonable amount. That said, regarding your situation, you may want to think of 8 as an acceptable offer. Depending on the person, 5 might be enough, while others may require 10 or more. Women also adjust their minimum terms depending on the person. So it’s certainly possible that someone would accept 5 or 6. Why not meet a variety of people and see how it goes? I hope this helps.

It can vary a lot depending on the date and the person. If I’m not interested in someone, I’ll name a high amount so they’ll turn me down. If I like them, I’ll name a lower amount. In my case, I suggest dates that accommodate the woman’s preferences as much as possible. I also offer a decent allowance even for dinner only (no intimacy), so I feel that even an adult relationship (intimate) can work without requiring an especially large amount.

I would’ve just ignored something this blatantly baiting and assumed it would be hidden, but since Mr. Maezawa actively took the bait, I’ll answer. The allowance you want is also part of the matching process. There’s no point worrying about people who aren’t a good fit. If you’re hoping for 5–6, try pursuing arrangements on those terms, and if you can’t find a partner at all, you can always reconsider them. Also, if what other people think matters that much to you, I think you’re better off not engaging in a relationship involving an allowance—something others may see as immoral—in the first place. Adding this after reading Mac’s answer: I doubt he would write “I don’t care either,” though. lol

If you’re absolutely set on a specific amount, why not limit your offers on PATOLO to people who clearly state that they’re looking for exactly that amount? The advantage for men is that, once you pay the setup fee, you can make offers to one person after another. You may find someone whose personality and allowance expectations are a good fit, so why not make offers to a few people as a learning experience? That’s how I started out too.

The questioner is being far too naïve. Looking through the amounts women requested, I found: 38 years old: ¥50,000–¥100,000 37: ¥50,000–¥60,000 30: ¥80,000 25: ¥90,000–¥110,000 25: ¥60,000–¥150,000 18: ¥50,000–¥100,000 19: ¥40,000–¥100,000 18: ¥50,000 or more 29: ¥100,000–¥120,000 26: ¥40,000–¥80,000 29: ¥60,000–¥110,000 32: ¥100,000–¥150,000 36: ¥80,000–¥150,000 28: ¥100,000 22: ¥60,000–¥70,000 28: ¥50,000–¥100,000 30: ¥100,000 33: ¥40,000–¥80,000 23: ¥50,000–¥150,000 etc. That’s the general idea. When you see a range like ¥50,000–¥150,000, assuming that ¥50,000 should be enough is simply a man’s wishful thinking. You should generally assume that she has something around the middle of the range in mind. In this case, you should think she’s hoping for around ¥100,000, while also considering that she may expect ¥150,000 from you specifically. I remember seeing a man who negotiated with a woman based on the lower end of her stated range, then got angry when she turned him down. The problem is the assumption that she’ll automatically accept anything within that range. It’s easy to imagine that being with someone who thinks that way wouldn’t be enjoyable. Of course, depending on how he treats her during dinner, his appearance, and whether the conversation goes well, he may be able to make her think, “For this man, I’d be okay with the lower end.” That can happen. But focusing only on the amount makes it seem like he’s confusing this with something like a brothel. In that case, he’d probably be better off going to a brothel. He’d know which women he could meet for his preferred price, and he could probably enjoy himself without having to be so considerate of the woman. Rather than asking, “What’s a reasonable amount?” I think it’s better to look for women who are willing to accept the allowance you can afford, and to think about what you can do to make a woman have a good time and want to see you again. If it really has to be about the amount, then with a dating club, I think you should consider ¥100,000 to be the general standard. If that’s too difficult, you’d probably be better off using a dating app. P.S. > I would normally ignore something this blatantly troll-like and hide it, but since Maezawa-san actively took the bait... Sorry. I wanted to write about allowances ＞＜