It’s been six months since I first joined Univers. Including Univers and Patlo, I’ve met six women so far—two C, three B2, and one B1—and I’d like to share my impressions.

I haven’t been able to have an adult relationship with every B1 woman, but I’ve honestly never felt that I was being scammed by someone claiming to be an A-type. Even with C-type women, they have the right to say no. I think the higher the hurdle, the order is A → B1 → B2 → C → D. I’m a veteran member and feel like I’ve probably made offers to nearly 50 women.

Even if you group B2 and B1 together and say they’re close to A, the woman who’s closest to A within category B is, by definition, B1. A means dinner only, forever. B1 means she basically prefers dinner only, but there’s a possibility that after meeting, she may become open to something more. Thinking “B1 means adult relationship (intimate) is okay” is just focusing on your own desires. It’s better to think of B1 as basically not open to an adult relationship, though she might agree after you court her for about six months. I didn’t think there was any real need to split B into B1 and B2 in the first place, but just as I predicted, people are already saying that even after the split, some are actually A. At this rate, in about ten years we’ll need to subdivide it into B1 through B10. Actually, B alone would be enough… The distinctions are meaningless. So I feel like people who enjoy courting should make offers to B, while those who find courting a hassle should make offers to C. Hmm? Maybe there’s no need for relationship classifications at all… Personally, I think it’s enough just to know whether someone is A or not A.

Since there are women who pull the “adult-intimacy bait-and-switch dinner scam,” it raises the value of women who are genuinely prepared for an adult relationship (intimate), so isn’t that actually a good thing? Personally, I enjoy figuring out how to win over women running that scam and get them to open up, so they’re actually a welcome presence for me. I like Type A as well, but the women hiding in B1 who pull the “adult-intimacy bait-and-switch dinner scam” are harder to win over, which makes it more fun for me. Conversely, the “closet B1s” hiding among Type A aren’t nearly as interesting. The difficulty level is: Adult-intimacy bait-and-switch dinner scam ＞ “Closet B1s” hiding among Type A

It’s not really an issue whether she hints at an adult relationship or not, as long as you’re okay with seeing her without one, so I don’t see a problem. Personally, if there’s no adult relationship involved, I can find women who’ll go out with me just for a proper meal and a free dinner, so I’m not willing to spend extra money on it. Sorry I can’t relate to how you feel. I’ve never offered to see B because I can’t bring myself to meet a dinner-only girl like that. Sorry for going completely off topic—I just had to brag. I’m currently seeing a 19-year-old regular partner again for the first time in a while. She’s almost completely passive, but she has a beautiful face and a figure like a K-pop idol. Her waist is under 50 cm, but she has a nicely shaped butt. Sometimes she gets into it and lets out little moans, and, well, she’s so tight down there that I finish right away. I ended up doing it twice in an hour earlier. When I’m with a younger girl, every gene in my body is celebrating. It’s such a thrill—that’s the real appeal of papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan)! Sorry for bragging. So, what’s your answer? lol

I’m Kamihikōki, and when I went into the bedroom where my wife was sleeping and approached her to sleep beside her, she verbally attacked me with, “Why are you coming in here?” Then she piled on with, “Are you harassing me?”—and knocked me flat. > 【Adult-hinting dinner-only scam】 I think there are also plenty of papas (male supporters) who welcome that. There are many different styles for both men and women, so if the two people are compatible and can adapt to each other, I don’t think it should be a problem. Not only does everyone have their own style, but even the same person can change their style over time… When I first joined, I thought nothing could surpass sex with a girlfriend, and I also had no shortage of sexual partners. So I was looking for wonderful women rather than an adult relationship (intimate). There was even one B-type woman I went on nothing but dinner dates with more than 100 times. My views have completely changed since I first joined, so my behavior may be different now as well… Just as some men place more weight on an adult relationship (intimate), some women place more weight on the allowance. And if a woman doesn’t place much weight on the allowance, it seems natural that she could communicate smoothly with a man who doesn’t place much weight on an adult relationship (intimate). Some men and women want to decide the allowance before moving into an adult relationship (intimate), while others want to establish a relationship first, regardless of the allowance. I think there are many different patterns. Unless the person asking the question is the latter type, I feel it would be better not to make many offers to B1-type women. Even if things progressed to an adult relationship (intimate), it’s hard to imagine enjoying the dates afterward. (Once you’ve progressed to a relationship where you go to hotels,) it’s also strange for a man to ask a B1- or A-type woman, “Are we going to a hotel today?” If she’s always okay with it, that would essentially make her a type scam in reverse… She’s basically a C type.

Apparently, the average loss from specialized fraud last year was ¥2.68 million. There were even cases involving hundreds of millions of yen, so the average may not mean much. Either way, dinner-only scams probably amount to no more than a few hundred thousand yen, so they’re pretty harmless by comparison. Let’s not be so uptight about it.

With B2, there was one woman who said at the first dinner that she wanted to meet several times first to see whether things could develop into a relationship. Other than that one exception, things have progressed to a relationship from the second meeting onward. B1 can vary depending on whether she’s closer to type A or type B2, so I think you just have to approach her with that in mind. Some people have been able to develop relationships with women who were previously type B or are currently type B1, so you’ll have to meet them and decide for yourself. Either way, if making offers to type B women leaves you feeling uncomfortable, it may be better to be straightforward and make offers to type C women instead.

I don’t think being a Type B woman automatically means she’s running an “adult relationship bait-and-switch” or a dinner-only scam. B1 means, “After going on several dates and seeing if we click, the relationship may develop further,” while B2 means, “The first time is dinner only. The relationship may develop from the second meeting onward.” Since both say “may develop further,” I agree that women with intentions closer to Type A are mixed in, but calling it “leading someone on” or a scam seems unnecessarily malicious. In my experience, back when I was making lots of offers and before the B types were divided into B1 and B2, things developed after the first or second meeting with most of the Type B women I met and wanted to take things further with.

None of the women I met through B2 declined an adult relationship on the second date. I feel like about half of the women on B1 lean more toward A. Though maybe I’m simply not good enough.