I really hope you’ll rejoin Universe Club.
You seem like an absolutely wonderful person, so I’m sure there are plenty of papas who would love to meet someone like you.
I’m still active myself because I’m hoping to meet women like you.
I was wondering what Paper Airplane meant by a “convulsive orgasm,” and then I remembered—yes, they do exist.
Maybe about one in fifty women, I’d say.
Their legs straighten out, and they really do stop making sounds. They’re moaning right up until the convulsions start, but if they keep orgasming repeatedly beyond that point, their voice changes slightly into these rapid little sounds—“aaaaaaaah”—and their legs start shaking intensely. I’ve seen that happen.
With a normal orgasm, the area around the waist, centered around the vagina, tends to twitch. With a convulsive orgasm, it’s the legs that shake.
In a recent case, once she started having convulsive orgasms, she kept orgasming even when I stopped moving my hips and just pressed my c*ck firmly deep inside her. She also sweated profusely.
I think convulsive orgasms are more about the woman’s natural physical makeup than anything related to the man’s technique.
Sorry for going off-topic.
As for whether a long-term arrangement is good or bad, generally speaking, I think it’s good. But my top monthly partner clearly hasn’t been able to get a boyfriend because of me, and we’re both stuck.
She strongly wants to get married and is looking for—and I’m encouraging her to look for—a boyfriend around her own age. But because I’m such a convenient man for her, she seems too afraid to let me go. No matter how many times we try to break things off, we always end up back together.
So I can’t say this kind of relationship is ideal. That’s why I don’t think ending things with her papa was necessarily the worst possible outcome.
This is just a feeling, but I think three years at most is probably a good length for an arrangement.
That said, relationships that last forever do seem to exist.
There’s one woman who has overtaken my top partner and become the undisputed queen. She already had a boyfriend when we met, then got married and had a child, but we still meet three times a month.
When we eventually part ways, it’ll be either because I run out of money or because I die. We didn’t have an adult relationship at all during her pregnancy, but we went shopping for baby supplies together. She’s the kind of woman who makes everything fun.
This is papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), so an allowance is part of the deal.
You wouldn’t continue seeing someone if there were no allowance, right?
That leaves you with two options:
・Keep accepting offers until you find someone who naturally gives you an allowance
→ Make an effort to receive as many offers as possible
Or:
・Act in a way that matches the other person’s preferences so they’ll want to keep paying you an allowance
→ In other words, learning how to get them emotionally hooked.
Either way, there are plenty of rivals, so you need to put in a reasonable amount of effort to build a relationship where you can continue receiving an allowance.
(A small number of women get flooded with offers, but they’re not very useful as a reference.)
You seem to be working hard at your regular job, so with papa-katsu, you could simply treat it as a lucky bonus if you happen to find someone good. Or, since you’re already doing it, you could put in a little effort and earn some side income.
Hopefully, what you learn here will be useful not only in papa-katsu, but also in future real-life relationships and at work.
Just a personal opinion:
I often have adult relationships, but I also frequently go on dates without intimacy—driving, sports, gaming, traveling (I don’t like overnight trips), and all sorts of other things.
However, expecting one woman to do all of that is impossible. That naturally leads to seeing multiple partners, which means the allowances get spread out as well.
Conversely, I hope women will also increase their allowances by seeing multiple partners and experience all kinds of papa-katsu arrangements.
Papa-katsu is interesting because everyone has their own style. I used to go to hostess clubs and adult-entertainment establishments quite a lot, but these days I’m completely hooked on this kind of club activity.
I think it’s best to be natural and stay true to yourself.
Rather than becoming a convenient woman, it’s fine—even preferable—for the man providing the allowance to be the one who feels convenient to you.
If you show more of your own individuality and unique qualities, you’ll leave a stronger impression, and the man may increasingly feel that he doesn’t want to let you go.
Women join at about 5.6 times the rate of men every month, so men have an enormous number of options. There are many wonderful women—thoughtful, pleasant, and often seemingly perfect. But even if you become the ideal “convenient” woman, you may still get lost in the crowd.
I think it’s perfectly fine to be more carefree, spontaneous, and playful than you normally would be when spending time with female friends. Men want to see a woman genuinely enjoying herself and showing her true nature.
When a man provides an allowance, he’s already at a complete disadvantage.
That’s why, if it feels too much like he simply obtained you with money, he may find it boring. There are plenty of professionals at hostess clubs, lounges, and similar places who will spend time with you if you pay them. You could say the club exists precisely because that kind of thing is boring.
Once you understand that, the relationship can become something lively, natural, and fulfilling—not merely a transactional, obligatory arrangement that feels like work.
> I kept thinking, “Maybe I should act this way…”
I think it’s fine to put all those thoughts aside and participate more comfortably.
There’s a club woman I’ve met more than 4,500 times, and we’re still seeing each other. If I had been with someone who was constantly worrying about how to act, I don’t think we ever could have met that many times.
Postscript:
I wonder if some men think that, by turning those 4,500 meetings into just two or three with each woman, they could meet 100 or 200 women.
If they’re satisfied with constantly replacing women and keeping both the relationship and intimacy shallow, perhaps it would be better for them to provide something equivalent to the value of the allowance in return…
Hmm… But I still can’t see that as anything other than private prostitution. It’s hard to call it dating.
> “Amplifying what already exists.”
That’s a lovely way to put it. Women, careers, and even products in this world only truly shine when their individuality comes through.
What feels comfortable and meaningful differs from person to person. When I look at my daughter, she can be moody, complain, and act selfishly, but there’s something comforting about her cheerful moments, her happy expressions, and the innocent way she acts when we’re together. Club women are probably like that in their everyday lives too. If they put on too much of a façade, you start to feel a distance—not just boredom, but an endless distance.
Women, especially young women, tend to express their full range of emotions. When they instead respond in an overly formal and polished way, it’s safe and skillful, and it leaves a good impression—but what is it, really? That isn’t their true self, is it?
The same goes for their movements and voices. You can tell when someone is acting if they aren’t genuinely feeling it. In fact, it should begin with not feeling anything and gradually becoming immersed in the moment. Of course, this is a difficult area. Being completely unresponsive isn’t good either.
For both men and women, it’s like searching for a rough diamond. And you have to make that judgment when you’re seeing only the rough stone at the beginning. Unless both people are capable of doing that, it may be difficult to reach a long-term relationship.
> “A good papa is someone who sets her free.”
That’s important too. Women are freer when they’re given that freedom, and the choice to leave should belong to the woman as well. Ironically, that may be why she doesn’t leave.
I think papas should always keep the door open. They should create a relaxed, convenient-papa arrangement where the woman is free to end things whenever she wants by simply not contacting him, and can meet whenever she feels like it. For the right kind of person, a woman probably won’t cut him off—whether it’s through the club or in romance.
In a club arrangement, men are already using the unfair advantage of offering an allowance. If the man also holds the right to end things, it can feel extremely one-sided.
I currently have three club women I’ve met more than 3,400 times. Sometimes they suddenly stop contacting me because of starting a business, studying for qualifications, attending training camps, and so on. I don’t contact them first, so I assume they’ve moved on. But after a while, they end up contacting me again. I had a feeling they would eventually return, though.
Yes, exactly—their voices.
Only adult-video performers and soapland workers should deliberately make those sounds. Rather than forcing them out, they should simply slip out naturally, involuntarily—those genuine sounds.
You shouldn’t deliberately move your hips either. (Of course, the necessary movement depends on the position.) It should be a physical response that happens on its own—vibrating or moving without you being able to stop or control it.
Post-postscript:
The secret to keeping a club woman from becoming boring
Writing all this brought back memories of when I first joined.
I had all kinds of assumptions: “It’s just sex through a club,” “I mustn’t do anything she dislikes,” “I don’t know how far I’m allowed to go,” and of course, “I mustn’t take it seriously.” I was so focused on being considerate that I couldn’t enjoy myself at all. My lack of confidence only got worse, the other person couldn’t be satisfied, and neither could I. Looking back, it was a pretty miserable situation.
What I’m trying to say is this:
Women in particular may have a preconceived notion that club intimacy can’t possibly be enjoyable or satisfying, and that it could never compare with intimacy with a boyfriend.
I’ve come to think the opposite. With lovers, love comes first, while in a club arrangement, people can be brought together by physical compatibility.
So if a woman can let go of those assumptions, she may be able to genuinely enjoy the connection between herself and the other person. Of course, I think the man also needs to help her relax and open up gradually.
As long as she believes it will be less enjoyable than intimacy with her boyfriend, it will become very dull for the papa as well—and he’ll inevitably lose interest quickly.
From the woman’s perspective, she may have such a fixed belief that it isn’t even intimacy in the first place, let alone something comparable to intimacy with her boyfriend. From the papa’s perspective, he may become hesitant, assuming that she must feel that way.
That may be one of the underlying reasons why both men and women end things.
Looking back, I feel that’s such a waste.
> Ayase,
Simply letting go of those assumptions could completely change things. I think the same is true for other club women. It may not be easy to let go of them, but just considering the possibility of setting them aside as a starting point could change how women—and not only women, but also papas—are perceived.
Men join clubs hoping for an adult relationship or to meet beautiful women, but there’s much more depth to it than that, including intimacy and physical compatibility.
After all, married couples and romantic partners begin with love, whereas in a club arrangement, you can search for physical compatibility without having to mistake it for love.
Still, I think both men and women inevitably believe that even after joining a club, nothing could compare with the best, loving intimacy between lovers, and that it’s an entirely different thing.
If that assumption could be removed, club experiences might change completely.
If you can let go of those preconceived ideas and fixed notions, then regardless of whether you felt anything or not, and regardless of what you did, more of your natural self will come through.
You can’t normally start dating someone after first confirming your physical compatibility with them, can you? That means it’s entirely possible for a club relationship to involve intimacy even better than what you have with a lover.
You may think, “No way,” and as long as you hold on to that assumption, perhaps not much will change. But simply realizing that possibility exists can help transform something obligatory into something more genuine.
Even a small change like that can greatly affect how your feelings come across to the papa.
And they say love is blind. In a club arrangement, because there’s no love involved, you can calmly evaluate compatibility in all areas—not just intimacy.
You don’t end up in situations like, “Now that the love has faded, why am I even with someone like this?” as in a later-life divorce. Since there’s no love from the outset, you can assess each other calmly, without being shocked later. In fact, that can allow the relationship to deepen steadily. You can also learn about each other’s hobbies, the things you want to do and places you want to go, ways of thinking, and values in a calm and clear-headed way.
