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Dec 26, 2024 11:46
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It may be a matter of the man’s ability to handle things, but is there any benefit to women not being honest about what they want?
For example, giving a price range—including letting him know when the allowance feels insufficient—along with their hobbies and preferences, expectations regarding appearance or scent, how they’d like to communicate when you’re not meeting, and so on.
Of course, how you communicate these things is the most important part. But when you compare the pros and cons of not saying anything, it seems to me that being honest has far more benefits. What do you think?
(Obviously, there are times when someone reaches their limit of patience, steps on a landmine, and gets cut off without warning.)
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No arguments here.
They say smart people leave quietly, right? If I don’t get a reply on LINE, I take it as a sign that it’s over. Once I feel like it’s no longer going to work, I don’t say anything either. I don’t say anything unnecessary. There are actually a lot of benefits to staying quiet.
That said, if the relationship has lasted a long time, I think you can talk things through. •*¨*•.¸¸☆
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I’m not quite sure what the question is asking, but I think women have a lot to gain from not being completely honest.
Actually, I’m not sure what you want them to be honest about. Do you mean you want someone to honestly tell you things like your fashion sense is bad or your skin has lost its glow?
You might find someone like that if you look, but most people probably won’t say anything because having poor fashion sense isn’t going to kill you, and there’s not much point in saying your skin lacks radiance if it’s simply due to age.
Some things can’t be helped even if someone points them out, and generally, people will only say what they think the other person can accept.
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It’s not really an argument, but I do tell them what I’m thinking.
If I’m not satisfied with their response, I’ll simply end things.
At the first dinner after making an offer, I explain my terms:
- How much the allowance would be for an adult relationship (intimate)
- How often we’d meet
- Around four hours per date
- Contact limited to practical matters, like arranging the next meeting
- Other papas or a boyfriend are fine—I’ll be supportive and listen
Then I ask, “So, shall we go to a room next time?”
The woman usually responds with whether she’s okay with that and what she wants. She might say it’s fine, or ask for a little more allowance, for example.
The smaller details are something we gradually confirm as we continue seeing each other:
69 is okay, standing from behind is okay, but she doesn’t like clean-up oral, and so on.
If I feel like she’s been cutting corners lately, or seems eager to leave early, I’ll tell her that too.
I continue seeing women who make an effort to improve. If nothing changes, I end things. Sometimes the woman stops responding altogether.
That’s generally how I handle things.
I respect the women I meet and treat them carefully, but since I’m the one paying, I don’t intend to put up with everything. My stance is to say what I want to say.
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Of course? I believe I understand how you feel.
That said, isn’t demanding that a woman reveal her true feelings simply our own ego? At least in my case, my generosity doesn’t quite match my bank balance. And perhaps true generosity means being able to remain unfazed even when you’re not told someone’s honest feelings.
Putting this activity aside, do you even have relationships where you and the other person openly share your true feelings? In my case, if my wife and I laid everything bare, a storm would erupt. She doesn’t know about my personal assets. She probably assumes I have a fair amount, but if she learned the truth, the figure would be on an entirely different scale, and our peaceful life would be over.
I’m not making fun of you at all, but don’t you think relationships where people reveal their true feelings are practically nonexistent?
There probably isn’t much happiness to be found in a woman’s true feelings. I like to think that we’re being tested on whether we have the capacity to enjoy this activity without laying everything bare to each other—and I occasionally put that to practice. Although I say “occasionally,” starting today I’ll be spending two nights at a hideaway in Kyoto, enjoying some private time.
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> Do you ever get into arguments with people you’re involved with, regardless of whether they’re women?
Basically, no. Unlike business, I think negotiating is a bad move in this context. If our perspectives don’t align, I simply walk away.
> Is there any benefit to women not being completely honest with you?
I’m sure there are plenty of benefits, but perhaps the person asking this question hasn’t realized that—and they don’t see any point in arguing with them.
> The way you communicate things is certainly important, but when you compare the advantages and disadvantages of not saying something, I think the advantages clearly outweigh the disadvantages. What do you think?
I don’t think the way you say it is the issue. What matters is: ① the substance, and ② not making the other person feel like you’re negotiating with them. Those are the two important points.
I’ll say it again: business and dating are different. When in Rome, do as the Romans do.
To put it plainly, women are selling sex, after all. The humiliation they feel is only a paper-thin line away from the humiliation men feel when they’re taken for their money. And on top of that, if they’re subjected to all sorts of criticism, of course they’ll be hurt.
Women are perishable goods. They’re like delicate peaches that bruise easily, so treat them gently if you want to enjoy them at their best.
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I think people have different ideas about how much back-and-forth counts as an argument. By my standards, I’ve never actually had an argument.
As for women being honest, for example, even if I think a woman’s breath or intimate areas smell, I usually don’t say anything. I don’t know whether she could fix it, whether she would want to, or whether she would actually do anything about it. And I wouldn’t want to continue seeing someone only after pointing it out and having her fix it. It would be quicker to find someone else who doesn’t smell.
To put it in the terms you used, I simply don’t see any benefit in pointing it out.
When you talk about appearance, I assume you mean things that are easy to fix, like nose hair or untidy eyebrows. But wanting your partner to point those things out and take care of you—isn’t that treating a dating partner like your mother or wife?
That said, if the relationship continues and you become closer, they may eventually point those things out.
What people consider a benefit also varies from person to person and depends on the situation, so you can’t categorically say that the benefits are overwhelmingly greater. If you want someone to tell you those things, I think you need to build a relationship where they feel comfortable doing so.
Going back to what I said at the beginning, this exchange doesn’t count as an argument by my standards. However, if even this kind of tone is considered an argument, then I have argued with the women I’m currently seeing.