I was encouraged by the answers here and went on my first adult date with a 65-year-old man—the same age as my father. He was kind, but he was bald and overweight, had warts on his face, and was also a slow finisher, so I found him really unpleasant.

Even if she takes the ¥100,000 and then blocks him without ever meeting, there’s really nothing the man can do. Even if he complains to Univa, since this wasn’t about the first meeting, they probably couldn’t penalize her. They’d likely respond to his complaint with something like, “We’re sorry, but we can’t get involved in dates after the second meeting.” Even if he consulted a lawyer, a contract offering sex in exchange for payment would probably be invalid anyway. And if he kept pursuing her after being blocked on LINE, that would clearly constitute stalking, so the police would likely respond if she sought their help. If she lied about needing money for tuition despite not attending school, that would be fraud. But this was supposedly payment for having sex four times a month, so… In this case, I think it’s fine for her to blow him off and let him accept the loss. “People should keep their promises” is generally true, but I feel like promises like this don’t necessarily have to be honored. In reality, women doing papa-katsu get ghosted after being intimate pretty often through apps, but you never hear about the men getting arrested for it, do you? He should just accept that he got one encounter out of it and that it effectively cost him ¥100,000.

As for the questioner, 25,000 yen per pay-per-meeting is less than what you’d get through an app, so I honestly think you should turn it down. That said, I understand you’re asking because there are circumstances that make it difficult to refuse, so I can’t really think of a good solution either. > Oh, you don’t need Loser Guy’s answer—I can pretty much guess what he’ll say, lol. I guess I’ll take the bait, lol. If the monthly arrangement is 500,000 yen and the benchmark is 50,000 yen per meeting: - Up to 9 times a month: Mac wins - 11 times or more a month: Mac loses That’s my 기준. The oral sex part is hard to judge. If the girl doesn’t mind it, I’d say one blowjob is roughly equivalent to half a time having sex. So 10 blowjobs plus 5 times having sex per month would be a draw. But he’s probably also providing housing and buying her things, so from most women’s perspective, even having sex around 15 times a month would still be “an amazing deal.” I know Mac takes exceptionally good care of the girl, and more than anything, the time he spends having sex each time is short. That said, 15 times a month probably isn’t realistic. It would somehow make him feel like he’d lost. I’m mentally weak, so the relationship actually wouldn’t last for me unless the number of times we had sex stayed below the number specified in the arrangement.

You’re better off not doing it. The allowance is low, and once they realize you’re only going through the motions, they’ll probably lose interest. So it’s not necessarily stable.

Realistically, there aren’t that many deals in this world that sound too good to be true. You have to weigh whether the level of creepiness can be offset by the allowance. If not, quit. If you hate it enough that it’s affecting your mental health, quit. If you need the money, put up with it and continue. Using the Pareto principle as a rough guide, you should probably go into this expecting that only about 20% of club-member papas (male supporters) will be within the normal, acceptable range, while the rest will be difficult to deal with. That said, there definitely are those roughly 20% of normal papas, as well as the top few percent of truly exceptional papas, and you may have a chance of receiving offers from them. In the papa-katsu world, those odds are definitely higher at Universe Club, since they have so many members.

The other respondents seem to be answering kindly, but the recent questions are almost identical in content—especially the way they describe men as disgusting. Couldn’t they all actually be from the same person? If that’s the case, then someone who describes the man they’re seeing as “bald and fat” or “so unbearably disgusting” probably has some issues with their personality. Considering that, the terms of a monthly arrangement with a ¥100,000 allowance and four meetings including an adult relationship seem pretty reasonable. In the first place, if you feel that much disgust toward the other person, I don’t think this is for you. You should either try using a dating app or retire from papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) altogether. I honestly don’t understand why you would keep meeting him despite feeling that way. Please wait, Lord Ainz. If you’re going to fight the Supreme Being, there are certain minimum standards for an attack.

It’s similar to https://universe-club.jp/help/questions/view/17097, but the ID is different, so is this a different person asking? It would be easier to follow if you included the number of the previous question. I often hear about this happening on apps: a papa suggests a monthly arrangement, says, “I’ll transfer the money all at once at the end of the month,” and the girl agrees to an adult relationship. Then, when the end of the month comes, he stops responding—and of course, no money is transferred. He got what he wanted and disappeared. I don’t think this happens here at Universe Club from the men’s side, even if there may be cases where women do it, but unless you trust someone very well, I think pay-per-meeting is safer. For what it’s worth, I’m currently living with my PJ, and I’ve just started a monthly arrangement for the first time. It began because we had intimacy during the day, and then I wanted to do it again that night. She agreed, saying it was simply continuing from earlier, without asking for any additional allowance—but somehow I didn’t feel completely satisfied with that. The monthly allowance is 50,000 yen, while pay-per-meeting would be 5,000 yen. So I find myself developing this strange feeling that I need to do it ten times to get my money’s worth. Maybe it’s because I’m small-minded? That’s why I’m thinking of asking her for a hug every morning before school and three minutes of oral sex every night before bed. I started yesterday. Neither of us would find that too burdensome, and I might not feel as bothered even if the number of adult encounters decreases a little. I’m almost tempted to ask: how do both men and women reconcile the issue of how often they have an adult relationship when they switch to a monthly arrangement? And no, I don’t need an answer from Mr. Loser—I can pretty much guess what he’d say, haha. The person who asked may not know much about me, so I’ll add that I’m also in my sixties. The PJ I’m currently living with is a teenager, so she’s younger than the person asking. I wanted to add something after reading Maezawa-san’s answer: if the same person really is posting these questions, what on earth is the purpose? Are they just doing it to provoke people? Is it fun? As I’ve mentioned before, apparently some people post messages aimed at a specific person while disguising them as general questions. I can understand that when the purpose is obvious. But when I start wondering whether a post might actually be a message to someone in particular—someone who frequently reads this site, possibly a papa talking to a girl rather than one of the respondents—it does make me lose some of my motivation to write an answer.

That’s way too low, so I’d recommend blocking him. Half price.

Whether the relationship continues depends on how the people involved feel. Some couples may continue seeing each other for ¥100,000 a month, while others may not. Someone else might not find the person you find creepy nearly as creepy—or might find them even creepier. Even if things continue, you might meet another man who reliably gives you an allowance and decide to end it. Or the man might find someone else he prefers, get tired of you, or otherwise end the relationship. Even if you bluntly ask strangers online, they don’t share the same discomfort you feel, nor do they share your desire for money. Asking other people won’t solve anything. So the answer is simply: if you don’t want to do it, you should walk away. Your question is about as unanswerable as saying, “I’m wondering whether I should eat this, but it looks like it might taste awful. I’m hungry, though. What should I do?” Saying, “If you think it’ll taste bad, don’t eat it,” isn’t dismissive—it’s actually a very kind answer.