My favorite papa (a male supporter) offered me extra allowance and suggested inviting another papa I’m seeing to have a threesome.
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It’s true that I’m seeing multiple papas, but I was hurt by being spoken to as if I were a prostitute. I’ve also been ordered to have sex with an elderly person and told to secretly record it. Even though this is a relationship based on allowance, it still makes me sad.
The other papas believe I’m seeing only them and treat me well. Meanwhile, the papa I love sees right through everything. Is there any way to make him believe that he’s the only one I’m seeing?
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Isn’t it a bit much to date multiple papas while making each of them believe they’re your only one?
You’ll have to come up with your own way of deceiving other people.
If someone is pressuring you into doing things you don’t want to do, why not look for another man? Since you’ve managed to date multiple papas, I’m sure you’ll find someone.
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The man has a cuckold fetish—he gets aroused by the woman he’s dating having sex with other men. Apparently, this is also called NTR.
I read it as you trying a little to accommodate his fetish, but ultimately being unable to go along with it.
From the man’s perspective, he isn’t treating you like a prostitute. He may even want his own legal wife to have sex with other men. Of course, it’s easier for him to say this to a mistress, so even if he hasn’t actually said it to his wife, I think that’s probably what he really wants to say to her.
Given that you’re seeing multiple papas, he’d probably be happy to hear what kind of sex you had with the other men. In other words, he doesn’t suspect that you’re seeing multiple men—he actually wants you to.
The issue is whether you’re willing to play along by acknowledging the multiple relationships and talking about what you do with the other men. It’s not a question of him refusing to believe that you’re seeing only him.
The real question is how far you’re willing to accommodate a man with a cuckold fetish. If you’re already close to your limit, then I think you need to decide whether to end things.
That said, since you are in fact seeing multiple men, if you told him—even if it were a lie—about what happens with the others, he’d probably be pleased and the relationship would continue.
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Being a mistress means fulfilling those desires you want to try but can’t talk to anyone about, so if you can’t be understanding, it may be difficult to continue seeing each other due to sexual incompatibility…?? ( ；꒳； )
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In relationships like these, I think it’s only natural that men and women may have different ideas about what it means to be valued, and that those ideas may differ from conventional dating. In fact, many people probably register with a dating club precisely because it allows them to do things they can’t in a regular relationship.
With that in mind, the way that papa (a male supporter) feels he is showing consideration may not be by being exclusive with someone, but by giving her a generous (well-paying) allowance.
On the other hand, what men consider being valued by a woman can also be quite different from ordinary romance in this kind of setting. Personally, I don’t care at all whether the woman I’m seeing is dating only me, and even if she were, I wouldn’t necessarily feel valued just because of that. So I’m not sure anything would really change by convincing that papa to believe you’re seeing only him.
If this mismatch in expectations is making you unhappy, I think it would be better either to explain how you feel and discuss it with him, or to look for someone else.
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Unfortunately, I have the same proclivity as the questioner’s papa. My record is 5P—or 6P if you count me, even though I didn’t participate. I didn’t think I was forcing anyone, but I started to feel uneasy, so I messaged the women on LINE. One replied, “I’d be happy to, under the same terms,” which was a relief (lol).
That said, I think I understand how the questioner feels. That’s precisely why, as the other respondents have pointed out, agreeing to be secretly filmed was a disastrous mistake. But there’s no use crying over spilt milk, so let’s focus on what you can do from here: never say yes to your papa’s demands again. At the same time, claiming that you have no other papas is strictly off-limits—because it would be a lie.
When faced with questions or conversations of that kind, stay silent. Depending on the situation, crying is also an option. Your papa seems to see right through everything, so I can’t say how effective this will be, but if you can shed tears without making a sound (practice beforehand), it should have some effect.
I’ll say it one more time: never say yes. A lady doesn’t say yes. Once you say yes, you’re no longer a lady.
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The moment you agree when he says things like, “I’ll give you a generous allowance, so let’s have a threesome,” or “Do it with another man,” you’re basically admitting, “I’m seeing multiple people and I’ll do anything for money.” How do you not realize that?
If you really meant, “You’re the only one,” that’s exactly the kind of thing you’d refuse no matter how much money he offered, right?
Also, that papa’s preference is called cuckolding, and it’ll continue even after you get married and become a couple. Lots of husbands bring their wives to swinger bars. I guess otherwise they feel unsatisfied and can’t get excited. So it doesn’t necessarily mean he’s treating you like a prostitute. If you told a man with that preference, “You’re the only one,” he probably wouldn’t be happy—instead, he’d click his tongue and move on to another woman.
And pretending to be a virtuous woman while secretly having other papas—that’s the thrill of getting away with a lie. You may think you’ve applied your makeup skillfully, but it actually looks pretty gaudy and creepy. Tone down the makeup, too.
papa-katsu girls lie as casually as they put on makeup, but if you keep doing that, it’ll mess you up. You’ll stop being able to trust yourself or anyone else.
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You probably don’t need to worry about it that much.
Even if you’re seeing multiple people, you can just think of it as an unspoken rule to keep pretending that you’re both seeing only each other.
If you exchange fewer LINE messages—or don’t receive messages to reply to—while she’s on a date with another man, he’s probably figured it out already. And even if he sees right through it, I don’t think you need to worry too much.
People usually have set times when they can go on dates, and the times when they can message tend to follow a predictable pattern too. So you can probably tell when the other person is likely out on a date, since you won’t be exchanging messages as frequently then.
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There’s no need to convince him of anything—I’m not seeing any other papas. You’re the only one.
If you keep repeating that, I don’t think there’s much more they can say, even if it isn’t true deep down.
It’s hard to make someone believe you when they can see right through you, but it might be possible to brainwash them like a religion, so maybe you should study brainwashing.
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I think it means getting good enough at lying that your beloved papa (male supporter) won’t see through you—but realistically, that’s probably impossible.
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