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Jul 21, 2023 19:34
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Do men generally want to spend as much time as possible for as little money as possible?
And do women generally want to spend as little time as possible for as much money as possible?
Even if you feel there’s someone else who would give you a higher allowance, do you still not raise your rate?
The papa I’m close to wants to be my third-position papa and insists on treating me like a friend. Of course, there are no gifts either.
He always pays for dinner and drinks, but I end up listening to him talk through his problems with his other papas, and we eventually spend about 12 hours together.
We do have an adult relationship, of course, and the allowance for that is 30,000 yen.
I could cut things off, but he has a firm hold on my weak point—being someone I can talk to about my problems—so although it’s not much as papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), I feel like I’m trying to make it a win-win situation.
He really wants me to like him, and this has continued for several years. That makes me think he could simply increase my allowance if he feels that strongly.
I’m sure he knows that 30,000 yen is on the low side, yet he worships me as the greatest woman ever and constantly showers me with compliments. It feels contradictory.
I think he wants to keep things going for a long time on a budget of 30,000 yen, and only spend money on gifts or experiences for me when they can be written off as expenses.
In this case, has the papa basically won with his strategy?
Lately, I’ve been growing more aware that I’m being manipulated, and it’s been bothering me.
Thank you in advance.
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I want to give as much as possible and spend as much time together as possible.
Pretty normal, right?
But unless she says she wants to stay longer, I don’t spend that much time together.
Other
If you’re no longer satisfied with the arrangement and there’s someone better out there, I think you should stop dragging it out and break things off.
That said, it’s also true that some men will shy away from women they see as jaded or too experienced with papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan).
You could move on to a papa (a male supporter) who pays a generous (well-paying) allowance and meets your expectations, while your current papa could move on to a newly registered woman who isn’t jaded and won’t complain even if the allowance is low-paying.
If you weren’t able to build a relationship that went beyond that, then this should let everyone part ways amicably.
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In cases like that, she may say, “I already get plenty of allowance from my other papas, so you don’t need to give me any.”
Basically, it’s easier for her because she doesn’t have to worry about anything. If she receives even a small allowance, she has to make a certain effort with her makeup, clothes, and behavior, so in your case, it may end up feeling half-hearted.
Whether it’s papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), the adult entertainment industry, or men’s esthetics, popular women know how to find healthy outlets for all the stress that comes with it.
I think not receiving an allowance is what allows it to become genuine comfort and stress relief—and helps them build good relationships with generous (well-paying) papas and regular customers.
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When will you realize how foolish it is to ask questions framed as “What do men…” or “What do women…”?
Everyone feels differently, and it also depends on the person they’re with.
Besides, I don’t think people’s feelings can be summed up so simply as “I want to spend as much time together as possible for as little money as possible.” You yourself have gone on for 17 lines about how you feel.
And if you’re asking whether I want to “spend as much time together as possible for as little money as possible,” the answer is no.
As for keeping costs low, I’ve set the allowance at 50,000 yen, and I have no intention of lowering it. Sometimes a woman says she would be satisfied with 30,000 yen when we discuss the allowance, but I still give her 50,000. If she asks for more than 50,000—say, 60,000—I turn her down. There are also days when a woman says she doesn’t need an allowance, but if I don’t feel that’s a reason not to give her one, I still do.
Even with the same woman, the length of our dates varies considerably from day to day. Generally speaking, with A, whom I have fewer things in common with, we often eat, have sex, and part ways after about three hours. With B, whom I never run out of things to talk about, we eat, chat for a while, have sex, and usually spend about six hours together. C likes golf, so sometimes we play golf together, go out to eat afterward, have sex, and spend around 14 hours together. On days when we don’t play golf, we often part ways after about four hours.
They all receive the same allowance.
The point is, I don’t think about the time at all.
Your dating partner may think differently, but that’s how I am.
So in your case, it’s not that your papa (a male supporter) won some strategic victory, nor that you’ve matured. You’ve simply started calculating things on an hourly basis.
Whatever is bothering you, if you’re unhappy, why not look for another papa who pays better by the hour?