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Feb 14, 2023 00:59
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Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
When you start with “in the end,” I find myself wondering: what came before that?
What exactly are you referring to by “in the end”?
Is this a continuation of another question?
You phrase “an adult relationship (intimate) as a prerequisite” as though it were something unusual. Are you the type who, upon being proposed to, would ask, “So, in the end, is an adult relationship (intimate) a prerequisite?”
Well, there are apparently married couples who don’t have intimacy either, so perhaps asking that will eventually become normal. But at this point, I feel the person asking sounds a little unusual.
Even with papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), if that’s how you feel, I think you’re better off not doing it.
Everyone has things they are and aren’t suited for.
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Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
There are probably a lot of men like that.
Personally, I don’t see the value in receiving an allowance without an adult relationship (intimate).
High-end clubs, hostess clubs, girls’ bars, paid drinking dates, rental girlfriends…
If there’s no intimacy involved, you’re competing with countless old and new alternatives, after all.
👨 Male
Universe member
Haha(笑)
That’s a really good question.
Since an adult relationship (intimate) is a prerequisite for me joining a dating club, I don’t see dating continuing without one.
But, well…
you never really end up finding someone who’s a perfect match(笑)
Even if things seem promising at first, both men and women eventually find something that makes them think, “This isn’t quite right.”
So I suppose that’s why people keep cutting ties—or having the other person cut ties with them.
After going through various experiences and getting past that stage, both men and women start looking for a point they can compromise on and think, “Well, this is good enough.” I think there are couples who then continue seeing each other indefinitely, with no real end in sight.
Other
There’s no denying that sex is an important factor for men, while money is important for women.
That said, I think whether you make those things the “starting point” depends on the person.
I’ve always felt that it would be ideal if the arrangement could be based on “mutual affection.”
When you’re with someone you like, both men and women naturally want to touch and be touched by them. And when it’s someone you truly care about, you’ll want to support them as much as you can.
If she likes him, she’ll want to have sex with him.
If he likes her, he’ll want to give her money.
Isn’t that what “liking someone” really means?
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Other
I don’t necessarily think an adult relationship (intimate) is always expected.
In fact, two men I met through Universe told me they’d like to continue seeing me even without an adult relationship (intimate).
I also feel that choosing Type A may help avoid those kinds of invitations. There may not be as many, but some men simply enjoy going on dinner dates with women.
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Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
Marriage presupposes an adult relationship (intimate), and the same goes for romantic partners. In fact, romantic feelings may not even be essential. Even when people call each other boyfriend and girlfriend, it’s questionable whether genuine romantic feelings are really there.
In the past, many arranged marriages began without romantic feelings, with an adult relationship (intimate) coming first. Even so, affection often grew over the years, and the couple eventually became irreplaceable to each other. papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) is similar to an arranged marriage.
Other
When you put it that way, I suppose you may be right about the premise.
The other day, I ended things with a woman who was perfect in every other way, but with whom the adult relationship (intimate) side just wasn’t very good. If there’s genuine love, that may not matter, but otherwise physical compatibility is fairly important. I tried twice to take things one step further and develop that kind of relationship, but it didn’t work out. She told me that my eagerness was sincere and wonderful, and that she enjoyed our natural chemistry, which was why she had been seeing me every week. But she said she wasn’t looking for anything beyond that at the moment. I had sensed as much, so in a way the outcome was expected, but it ultimately brought things to an end.
So I thought I’d move on and have been making offers nonstop since the end of last year. Maybe my standards have dropped because I’m trying to fill the hole in my heart, but when I actually meet someone, I realize that isn’t the case after all—the previous woman is still living in my heart. After repeatedly declining second meetings, I’ve started to feel weighed down. I’m able to be intimate and my physical urges are satisfied, but that’s not what I’m looking for. I try to be respectful by offering an allowance above the going rate and paying whatever amount they ask, but when this happens several times in a row, I feel bad toward the women involved, and it becomes emotionally exhausting.
On the other hand, an A-type woman I made an offer to last year and met once has completely faded from memory. After meeting her, I noticed that her physical vibe was very similar to someone I had seen before. I found myself predicting that even if we eventually became close and intimate, it probably wouldn’t work out well, and I lost the motivation to see her again. I feel bad for ignoring her when she contacted me after the New Year.
The person who asked the question may not understand, but I wanted to explain that this is simply how things actually are. Perhaps some of the other male members reading this can relate to it, at least to some extent.
Anyway, mathematically—or in terms of set theory—the adult relationship (intimate) side may be the starting point, but it isn’t everything. Having good intimacy is a necessary condition, but not a sufficient one. Conversely, being able to genuinely care about the other person is, I believe, the first step in an arrangement—the necessary condition.
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Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
For women, money is the premise.
For men, an adult relationship (intimate) is the premise.
And how much weight each person places on those things varies from person to person…
When you think about it more deeply, an adult relationship (intimate) doesn’t necessarily mean a physical relationship. A bond or emotional connection can exist—or develop and grow even when it wasn’t there at first. Taking all of that into account, an adult relationship (intimate) can also mean finding someone who replaces or even surpasses a real papa (a male supporter), or having that kind of relationship.
> I broke things off with a woman who was perfect in every other way, but the adult relationship (intimate) aspect wasn’t great. If there’s genuine love, it doesn’t matter, but otherwise, physical compatibility is pretty important.
I completely agree. Physical compatibility is extremely important. It’s an absolute must.
With a lover or spouse, physical compatibility may not be something you can change, and love can make up for it—or even overcome it. But in a club setting, physical compatibility is very apparent, and it’s difficult to continue without it.
In a club, if you make offers to 100 people, you may eventually meet the person you’re most compatible with.
But lately, something has been on my mind…
When it comes to finding that one-of-a-kind partner you’re perfectly compatible with, is it better to be good at sex—or would it be better to be bad at it?
That’s something I’ve started wondering about recently.
Does being good at sex make a woman more responsive, resulting in better physical compatibility?
Or, because you’re bad at sex, do you end up finding that one-of-a-kind partner whose body happens to fit your particular way of doing things perfectly?
What do you think? Which is better?