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A married woman I met through this site, whom I’ve been seeing for five years, recently told me that a woman she met at a gathering for married people is apparently a member of Universe. She reportedly lied about everything when registering—her occupation, marital status, and whether she had children. I never believed her profile 100%, but it made me realize how unreliable these profiles can be. Apparently, when the woman reported being secretly filmed to the club staff, they didn’t take her complaint seriously either. Are the staff or members aware of this?
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Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
If you’ve confirmed specific harm, and you’re a male member of the club, please contact the club staff. Posting about it here won’t resolve anything. The club keeps copies of members’ identification documents. That deterrent, unlike with anonymous apps, is one of the things that makes the service safer. As for the profiles, they’re generally accurate, but nothing can be perfect, so there will naturally be all kinds of women. It’s a place where you make offers until you find a good woman who’s a good match.
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I think there are times when you choose not to say anything, even though you’re not lying. As for taking secret photos, isn’t there really nothing you can do unless you have evidence? There’s no way I would know the personal experiences of every individual member. Marika
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Age: 50s 👨 Male Other
If this question is meant seriously, then basically, the person asking has zero information literacy. Before writing something like this, at least check the primary sources first. And if you weren’t being serious, you should’ve made it more entertaining. You’ve got to go all in and write something completely outrageous—like Tokyo Sports—or it’s just boring. It’s me.
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Age: Private 👨 Male Universe staff
Information about female members is basically self-reported. It’s based on the assumption that they should be telling the truth, but naturally, people won’t share things they don’t want to talk about. That said, we do properly verify their IDs. > Apparently, when a woman reported being secretly filmed to the club staff, they didn’t take her seriously. Actually, last month someone contacted us from the scene and said things like: “What is going on with this company? You don’t do anything even when someone secretly films a woman, and it’s disgusting that a man like that is still a member.” I replied, “If the woman wasn’t able to obtain evidence of the secret filming, we may not be able to determine what really happened, so there are cases where we can’t forcibly terminate the man’s membership.” Then they said, “No, she properly took a photo of the recording device and sent it to us.” They also told me various details, including where the exchange had taken place. When I checked, it turned out that the woman had indeed sent a photo of the recording device, yet the man’s membership had not been forcibly terminated. I thought, “What is this?” and looked through the messages. The man had placed a mobile-battery-style recording device there, and the woman had even photographed it as evidence. But when the club asked him about it, he claimed: “I wasn’t secretly filming anyone. I was only using it as a mobile battery.” So the club concluded, “Since the evidence is insufficient, we’ll issue a serious warning this time.” No, no, no. How is this “insufficient evidence”? That’s just a lame excuse. I was stunned. Naturally, I reported it to the company president. The president said, “The problem was that our internal response manual wasn’t properly prepared,” and the manual was revised. However, during the meeting about how to revise it, I was shocked to hear a senior staff member say: “He says he didn’t record anything, and he only had it with him rather than installing it, so we can’t forcibly terminate his membership.” I thought, “Then what’s the point of the Universe Police?” The rules clearly state that a member can be forcibly terminated simply for placing a recording device, regardless of whether he actually used it to secretly film someone. Yet there were staff members who interpreted “placed there” as meaning it hadn’t been “installed.” Japanese is difficult… Technically, “install” can imply fixing something in place, but if you consider the purpose of the rule, it should be obvious that placing the device there is included. I wonder if staff members who don’t understand the intent are just looking for loopholes. Try putting yourselves in the women’s shoes a little more. Anyway, as of this month, even merely possessing a recording device will result in forced termination. So from now on, if a woman takes a photo of the device and sends it to the club, the man’s membership can be properly terminated. Even so, a male member whose recording device has been discovered by a woman and who still shamelessly tells the club that he wasn’t secretly filming should be forcibly removed immediately. He’s dangerous for any woman who dates him in the future, so please be careful. By the way, this post isn’t really a question, so it would normally be hidden. I just wanted to write about what happened.
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だて◎ゆめ
👨 Male Universe member
In my case, I assume from the start that some people will naturally make false claims or offers. In particular, meeting and gaining experience with a woman I suspected of misrepresenting her relationship type has been a very valuable experience for me. After dating for a year or two, you start to see what someone is really like. I think that’s pretty normal in relationships between men and women, so it doesn’t really bother me. Once you see the person for who they really are, I think you can tell whether a genuine relationship can develop from there. I’m the type who’s happy with just one person, so if we’re a good match, I tend to keep things going indefinitely(笑)
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Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
It wouldn’t be surprising if some people registered using false information. But it’s strange that you believe what this woman told you is true, even though what she told you may itself have been a lie. As for hidden-camera photography, I think it would be difficult to deal with. If multiple women made similar complaints, wouldn’t you consider him extremely suspicious—practically guilty? Even if it didn’t warrant banning him outright, the staff could at least add a note saying, “Multiple women have reported suspicions that this man takes covert photos,” or something along those lines.
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This is Takahashi from Universe staff. During the interview, we proceed based on the information provided by the woman, so if it were all untrue, I would feel somewhat disappointed. If covert recording did in fact take place, it would be a crime. We would first verify the details with both parties. I can’t say whether the facts have been confirmed, but I do find it somewhat questionable to simply refuse to deal with the other person properly.
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Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
Rather than outright lying, I think both men and women register without telling the whole truth. They even use aliases when they meet, so I believe you only learn the truth after getting to know someone. After all, it’s an underground world. There’s no way to know which parts of the story you heard are true and which are lies. (So even if it is true, it would be silly to write as though you took it at face value.) When it comes to matters between men and women, I suppose it’s unavoidable that it can be difficult to hear both sides.
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Hello. I do wonder whether some people register without lying exactly, but simply being unable to tell the whole truth. Perhaps they’ll open up about it after being involved for a longer period of time. That said, I think they should be honest about being married, since many people may care about that. As for the hidden-camera incidents, individual staff members can’t really do anything about them, so I’d like Universe Club to take disciplinary action against the men involved. I’m sure there are cases where there’s no actual evidence… But even so, I wish they would at least ask the women involved in the past, or give the next woman who receives an offer a heads-up. That’s my request, even though I’m not a Universe Club member.
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