I've felt this for a while, but I get the impression that many women who start papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) while in college or in their mid-twenties are what you'd call promiscuous—or, regardless of the reason, already had fairly loose views on chastity.

Jumping to conclusions, lol. A tone-deaf question that manages to alienate both the papas and the women, hahaha. If someone has too little experience, sex isn’t very enjoyable either. I like younger women too, but my type is someone who looks refined and clean-cut, yet is living with her boyfriend and gets plenty of experience, so to speak. I prefer women around 23–28 who have a reasonable amount of experience. Compared with an innocent, completely passive type, I’m more into women who are experienced and enjoy sex.

Do you know the saying, “The pot calling the kettle black”? Aren’t you embarrassed to say things like that? You should probably delete your account. > What is this, Osomatsu-kun? LOL I was hoping you’d say, “What is this, Mr. Osomatsu?” instead. LOL

There are plenty of women at these clubs, so I don’t think it’s fair to assume that there are no innocent college students just because of your own preconceptions. Attitudes toward chastity have changed in many ways, too. Back in the Showa era, parents would even disapprove of their daughters living with their boyfriends. These days, I feel like more parents are relatively accepting of it. In the past, people usually chose a boyfriend from among coworkers or acquaintances from school. Now, they meet men whose backgrounds they often know little about through dating apps. From an older man’s perspective, that can seem pretty risky. But when you consider that relatively ordinary, innocent women may also come to these clubs as an extension of that trend, it might be a good time for dirty-minded older men, haha.

You’re absolutely right, which is probably why STIs, syphilis included, spread so widely. But the romantic notion that “maybe this girl is different” is incredibly powerful. papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) is a market where men pay a premium for dreams and ideals. There’s no point arguing with that.

The club exists thanks to women who start papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) while they’re in college or their mid-twenties. Aren’t you—and the rest of us—in a position to be grateful to them? Besides, if they had the kind of values where they’d only be intimate with a future spouse or a boyfriend they intended to marry, we’d be in trouble too. Also, if you don’t ask about what you’re struggling with, your question won’t be helpful to other readers either. The previous questioner’s situation—what they ultimately decided to do—was something other readers could learn from. You’re so far behind them that you really ought to follow their example, you complete idiot.

The following is a famous quote from Yujiro Hanma: “Food additives and the like can hardly be good for the body. That said, consuming only things that are good for your health can hardly be called healthy either. You must consume poison. You must consume nutrition. The true key to eating is having the capacity to find both delicious and transform them into flesh and blood.” In other words, notions of chastity and whether someone is promiscuous are, in the end, no more than “food additives.” That’s how I see it.

You must have dated quite a few women from that generation and gotten close enough to hear about all their past experiences.

I’m 28-year-old Potassium, recently labeled “kind of a slut” based on my experience with four men. First, let me give you a little lecture. When asking a question, please stop phrasing it in a way that drags other people into it and puts them down! (It doesn’t come across as “just being honest”; to me, it looks like harassment. Like some shitty teacher who names a student as a bad example in front of the whole class, lol.) I’d really like people to express themselves in their own words. Putting aside whether people agree or disagree with the respondent’s personal theories and opinions, I feel that both the people reading and the person who asked the question would rather avoid getting hurt… Though maybe that’s also me imposing my own views. Sorry, but that’s how I felt. I guess it’s fine to get angry at the respondent and think, “What the hell!” since it’s not anonymous, though I do find it funny as a matter of personality, lol. Especially since the girl who asked the previous question was struggling with whether to quit papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan)… and she had posted anonymously. Anyway, to the main point: I guess people might think I have low standards regarding chastity. And honestly, I understand what you’re trying to say. But from my perspective, I don’t understand why men who don’t uphold their own standards of chastity (you’re talking about the male members, right?) expect women to have those standards. Rather than women truly being inexperienced, if they can make a man feel that they’re innocent and inexperienced, then men are satisfied because, in the end, that’s how they perceive them, right? (Though if that’s just the questioner’s assumption, then maybe that’s all it is.) From the man’s perspective, the result looks the same anyway, lol. papa-katsu is, in a sense, about spending a limited slice of time together, so maybe it’s enough for her to be innocent during that time. I think many men don’t care about the process as long as she can act completely innocent in front of that particular papa. Of course, if a man expects marriage, doesn’t hold himself to any standards of chastity, and is being hypocritical, he might think, “I could never marry such a promiscuous woman.” But among male members, someone that naive and delusional seems like a pretty rare creature, lol. Judging from the question, it seemed like they were simply asking out of genuine curiosity, so that’s how I would answer. Speaking of standards of chastity, I’ll talk about myself. I’ve spent most of my life surrounded by girls, and being a virgin with no experience was always a complex of mine. I felt inferior because I hadn’t experienced what everyone else had. I fell into a messy relationship because I loved my first sexual partner too much. I thought sleeping with other people and filling that void physically might help me escape, but in the end, I realized I could experience the pleasure of sex separately from my romantic feelings. (Maybe that’s what people mean when they say I have no standards of chastity.) But I still couldn’t escape the emotional entanglement. I learned that romantic love is a matter of the brain—or the heart—and is honestly separate from the body. The more it comes out during pillow talk, the more genuine that feeling of love seems. Personally, I think having standards of chastity means loving someone regardless of their body, while not allowing just anyone into your heart. That’s quite a personal theory, hehe. > I suddenly wondered: Can papa-katsu exist without any fun involved? I don’t think it can, either. If you prioritize money in the way “Make-Otoko” does, then the woman gets the fun of receiving a large amount of money from a clean-cut man. In my relationship with my papa, the fun comes from playing at a pseudo-romance. Sorry for snapping at you the other day, lol.

I’m attracted to female college students around 20, but what I find most appealing is getting swept up in their youth and experiencing it vicariously alongside them. A temporary “bitchy” phase is part of that too. I can only assume the questioner doesn’t really understand what girls this age are like, because even without papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), female college students who have just discovered sex often become quite promiscuous. Not all of them, of course. Some come through that phase realizing, “I’m only capable of having sex with one specific person,” while others discover that sex and romance with multiple partners don’t bother them at all. Even though at first they were convinced they wanted to date only one man. These changes happen every six months or so, shifting as unpredictably as a cat’s eyes. I suppose it’s a period of sexual self-formation. It’s fascinating to watch. I spend money while keeping a certain distance, staying close to them and acting as someone they can talk to. I’m probably their wallet, their mirror, and their place of refuge all at once. By their late twenties, their sexual identities have usually become more established. They gain a sense of discretion, or simply stop taking as many risks. There are individual differences, of course. Wendy, gradually forgetting Peter Pan. As I’ve written before, I have a kind of Peter Pan syndrome myself, and I enjoy guiding dreamer Wendys into Neverland.

With all due respect, I think you only see it that way because you’re genuinely unpopular with women. You’re free to dream, and it was obvious within seconds that you live in a fantasy world—but saying something like that without imagining even a tiny bit of the feelings or circumstances of young women is just awful. More than anything, I’d like you to become genuinely popular with women at your age before saying things like that. Go out and try picking women up in the real world. Once you realize how little game you actually have, you might become more humble. Besides, there are countless young women and beautiful virgins with exactly the kind of strong views on chastity you’re talking about out in the real world, so why did you join a dating club in the first place? That’s important, and I’m genuinely curious, so could you explain? You’re unpopular, women won’t give you the time of day in the real world, so you join a dating club and have sex with girls—and yet you demand that women have strong morals about chastity? Pardon me? Have maggots taken up residence in your brain? Finally, let me ask the most important question of all: you’re not one of those men who only gives an allowance of 50,000 yen for an adult relationship, are you? You’re giving them at least 100,000 yen per meeting, right? You’re not being stingy when you can’t meet during the month, are you? Even when they’re on their period, you still meet them and give them the adult-relationship allowance, right? Oh, my apologies. Of course you do all that—and you’re genuinely popular with women—which is why you’re asking this question. I’m sorry. m(_ _)m For reference, I’m seeing an incredibly cute young woman with such strong views on chastity that it took three months before we had an adult relationship. Her monthly allowance is 1,000,000 yen. We often don’t meet at all during a given month, and we only have an adult relationship about once every three months. When we do, she makes the room completely dark, so I can’t see a thing lol. Girls like that do occasionally find their way into Universe. P.S. I think the girl who’s a virgin with no experience is the one whose profile I looked at yesterday. She probably has a lot of competition. She seems interesting, so maybe I’ll make her an offer lol. Actually, if I write that I’m doing it because she seems interesting, people will probably start throwing stones at me from every direction, so I’ll leave it alone (➰〰➰)ﾉ I suddenly started wondering: can papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) really work if you take all the fun out of it? I’d like to understand the psychology of the women who attack me over this point. Are they looking for true love? They aren’t, right? It’s their personal sense of justice, so I don’t mind them attacking me or throwing stones from a distance. But it feels strange when they attack me as if they represent all PJ women. Well, I do enjoy being attacked, so I don’t really mind. If they genuinely want true love, there are countless papa supporters who want exactly that. Please, go find one of them. I’m the type who likes to discuss things thoroughly beforehand, set the rules of the game, and then enjoy it to the fullest within those boundaries. Whether she has a boyfriend or other papa supporters is just another element of the game. If it were okay to cross the rules and become emotionally unstable, I would do that too. But being emotionally unstable is a nuisance, isn’t it? People become emotionally unstable because they’re serious. If you don’t want things to turn into that, then from the start, it’s a game with rules—a form of pro wrestling. If you’re aiming for the Olympics, the pinnacle of amateur wrestling, then I don’t think either men or women should be coming to dating clubs. > Sorry, I deleted it because I wrote something that might have identified her lol The clues were far too easy, so I deliberately kept things a little vague too. The internet is scary. Let’s both make sure we don’t let our guard down汗 If you managed to help this girl—who didn’t nominate you herself—leave papa-katsu, I’d be seriously impressed. I’m sure you’ll take good care of her, so please help her graduate from it. Even if you offered me hundreds of thousands or millions of yen, I wouldn’t be enough for her. You can buy bad memories with money, but you can’t buy good memories. P.P.S. > I attacked you the other day. Sorry about that lol What~? You’re not going to attack me anymore? lol