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Aug 27, 2022 17:20
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If you haven’t met that many times, a hotel date can be efficient since you can quickly receive a relatively large allowance. But in my case, it’s so puzzling that I had to ask.
Let me explain our relationship a little.
She’s a 21-year-old student—very beautiful and with a great figure—and I’m in my 30s. I’d say I’m above average in looks.
We’ve been having hotel dates with an allowance once a week for about three years, although there have been periods when we didn’t see each other. We’ve met quite a lot of times.
Whenever I invite her out for a meal, shopping, or a date, she makes up some kind of excuse and dodges the invitation.
She says school is busy, or that the school is being strict because of COVID, and so on. (I know her Instagram, so I’m fully aware those excuses are lies.)
She’s continued seeing me even after getting a boyfriend. (She hasn’t told me that she has one.)
A few times, I’ve suggested going shopping and told her I’d buy her whatever she wanted, or offered her more than usual for a date, but she always dodges the suggestion and refuses.
I know only she can tell me her true intentions, but this is just too puzzling. I’d appreciate hearing from the papa-katsu experts here about what reasons you think might explain it.
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A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
No offense, but people like you who think, “I’m lucky to have a young papa in his 30s,” are often the most disappointing.
You’re the only one thinking about how close your ages are or how you’re supposedly above average-looking.
From a woman’s perspective, being nearly ten years older is still more than enough to make you an older man.
Please understand that she may simply dislike being seen as doing papa-katsu when you’re walking around outside holding hands.
🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
Try to look at it calmly.
She’s young and beautiful, and if she’s been doing this for three years, she’s probably smart and capable too.
There’s no way you’re the only man in her life.
She probably has around ten men and makes money by seeing two or even three in a single day. If she spent time with them outside of hotels too, her schedule would become unpredictable, making it harder to double-book meetings with her other generous (well-paying) papas.
That’s why she likely creates her schedule in two-hour slots every day.
In a way, I’d say she’s a motivated woman who’s going places.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
> You know her Instagram, so you’re well aware that’s a lie.
Is she fairly well-known? If so, she may simply be worried because she never knows where or by whom she might be seen.
> She still meets me even though she has a boyfriend.
If anything, that makes it even more understandable that she’d be cautious, since someone might see her and tell her boyfriend.
I’m not really sure what you find so puzzling, but if you’ve been able to keep meeting her, why worry about something like that?
If you want a girlfriend, it seems like you should look for one somewhere else.
Other
They probably just don’t want to be seen walking around together… I can’t think of any other reason.
If she goes on dates with her boyfriend in public, she probably wants to make an even clearer distinction between the two relationships.
Other
I know you probably think, “I’m in my 30s, not that much older, and I don’t look bad…” but you’re still more than enough of a papa-katsu guy.
I absolutely don’t want anyone to see me with you. Please understand.
Akari
Other
Some men see women as nothing more than holes, you know. Maybe she sees you as nothing more than a free stick…
Young women are embarrassed to be seen walking around with an older man. They think it looks tacky.
Please try to understand that. Women who do papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) really stand out.
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
It simply means she doesn’t like you enough to want to meet outside.
She’s probably treating it like a part-time job and meeting you once a week as a transactional relationship. The time spent at that particular hotel is fine, but anything beyond that is absolutely out of the question. As long as you don’t keep persistently asking her out, the relationship can continue.
If possible, since you say you’re young and above average in appearance, it would be wiser to try your luck with someone else. Did you meet her through the club or outside it?
At that age—unlike someone 23 or 24 and older—there are countless places they want to visit, so whether through the club or outside it, they’ll naturally want to go to all kinds of places together. Visiting somewhere for the first time is fresh and fun.
Also, at that age, meeting once a week can hardly be considered frequent.
And when someone is that young, men who are ten, or even thirty, years older all seem more or less the same age—just old men—so she may have already found men she can enjoy spending time with without needing papa-katsu arrangements more generous than yours. Men wouldn’t leave her alone, after all, so at 21, she’s probably already had a wide range of experiences.
The fact that she is currently having an intimate relationship with you in exchange for an allowance suggests that this is indeed the case. At your age, I don’t think you can compete with men who have that kind of financial leeway.
Also, the fact that a woman is treating you this way at your age suggests that you need to make some kind of improvement while you still can.
In particular, this part sounds rather serious:
> A few times, I’ve asked her to go shopping because I’d buy her whatever she liked, or suggested going on a date for more than we usually spend on our hotel dates, but she just dodges the subject and refuses.
When it comes to invitations like these, if she turns you down after three attempts, give up. You also need to learn to read her reactions, at the very least. She clearly sees you only as a customer. Repeatedly asking questions that leave her no choice but to say yes is just putting unpleasant pressure on her.
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
Exactly as Kazu said.
She might be involved in show business.
Try inviting her on a drive date to the suburbs. Have her sit in the back seat.
You’ll probably get a yes.
There are several girls like that, including my ace. If one of them gets her period on the day we’re supposed to meet, I invite her on a drive date instead.
Or maybe the questioner has 12 pearls attached to his dick, and they feel so unbelievably good that she’s just moaning nonstop.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I think she simply doesn’t want acquaintances to see her walking around with an older man.
A woman I was seeing once told me she’d started disliking the Sn○idel store because there were often older men with young women there as couples.
P.S. It doesn’t necessarily mean she’s unhappy with your appearance. She probably just doesn’t want someone she knows to catch her in a papa-katsu situation.