Some women’s profiles say, “She has a typical attitude toward money.” How much does “typical” actually mean?
I’m not sure what 기준 to use to judge what’s typical.
Also, does it vary by class?
👤Asked byGuest👨GenderMale🎂30s👑Universe male member
Even people with a normal sense of money may want a substantial allowance for this kind of arrangement, so I don’t think this is a very meaningful question. Besides, someone might be fine with any amount from A, while even a high allowance from B would be a no-go. That’s why I don’t think there’s much point in asking about general standards.
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I don’t think a woman’s attitude toward money is necessarily related to the allowance she’s hoping for, so I don’t place that much importance on it.
That said, women with experience working in nightlife or who are really into luxury brands give me the impression that they spend money lavishly, so I don’t feel inclined to make them an offer.
Sometimes I wonder whether some staff members share Maezawa-san’s view, while others think it’s better to ask about a woman’s attitude toward money.
It’s not exactly like the old “Two-Year-Olds for Reference When Making an Offer” at the Fukuoka branch, but I feel that more men would use that as a reference when making offers if they could get a sense of each staff member’s personal preferences…
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I’m not sure whether you’re asking about the usual allowance, the budget for dates such as dinner, or the budget for gifts, but I don’t think there’s much point in worrying about what’s “typical.”
As Mr. Maezawa said, if you want to push things as far as possible financially, then you should make an offer and negotiate a low allowance based on your own principles.
I believe a dating club is a place where an arrangement is established if the other person agrees.
I have no interest in pushing things to the limit, so I simply set the allowance, date budget, and gift budget according to what I want.
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When it comes to someone’s sense of money, quite a few staff members feel there’s no point in asking about it and would rather stop.
The only reason they ask is because men keep insisting that they do.
I’m sure many men would say they never asked staff to bring it up, but some men are so persistent about it that staff ask simply because they’re being pressured to.
They try to estimate the allowance a woman wants based on her sense of money, thinking that a woman with modest financial expectations will accept a lower allowance and making an offer accordingly. In other words, some men want to use a dating club like a brothel and sleep with women as cheaply as possible, so they keep telling the staff, “Ask her, ask her—I’m the customer here.”
So asking, “What does an average sense of money mean?” is essentially the same as asking, “What’s an average allowance?”
Some men consider ¥50,000 average, while some women consider ¥100,000 average.
Some staff members might split the difference and consider ¥70,000 average.
But there’s no standard for what “average” is. Just as I always say when people ask about the going rate, there really is no fixed average.
That’s why many staff members feel there’s no point in asking about someone’s sense of money. They only ask because men keep demanding that they do.
“Average” in terms of financial expectations means whatever the person asking the question considers average. But there’s no guarantee that their idea of average matches the staff member’s idea of average.
Even if you try to pin it down, other men will simply say, “That’s not average.”
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An office worker taking home ¥160,000 a month is pretty common, though.
Honestly, it’s quite difficult to judge someone based on anything other than whether they’re carrying a nice bag or wearing designer brands.
My daughter is almost old enough to join Universe, but she says, “Even for 300 yen, I’d say ‘Sure, sure’ and do anything.”
Men and women alike may already be far from ordinary by the time they join a club…
Normally, most people would be scared to accept ¥100,000 in cash. At the same time, I imagine they’d say, “No way am I having sex, even if you offered me ¥1 million or any amount of money.”
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How much do you, the questioner in your 30s, consider “normal”?
Can’t you understand women around your own age, or those from the generation you yourself belonged to not too long ago?
Also, how would you describe your own sense of money? Generally speaking, I imagine that anyone in their 30s who can afford allowance-based dating is quite wealthy.
Once you’re aware of where you stand financially compared with the general public, you should also be able to understand the woman’s sense of money.
Anyone who’s a member should realize that social class has nothing to do with it. I think that, regardless of which class someone belongs to, spending time with a papa (a male supporter) can gradually change their sense of money.
Marika
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This isn’t about how people in dating clubs spend their money.
It’s probably more about how people in their 20s, 30s, and 40s generally spend money. So it may not be that reliable.
Try reading through the questions carefully.
You’ll find all kinds of people who spend lavishly despite coming from extreme poverty, right?
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Ah, I’d written it too ( ´・ω・｀)
I’m going to delete it now ε≡≡ﾍ( ´Д`)ﾉ
To sum it up, I live within my means, so I’m not looking for anything extravagant.
When I say “average,” I mean:
- I’m not the type to collect extremely expensive designer brands.
(I don’t dress head-to-toe in designer labels, so I might not be a good match for someone who likes that kind of girl. I’m not one of those sparkly Minato-ku Instagrammers.)
- If vegetables or other ingredients I’m about to use have discount stickers on them, I’ll buy them.
(I’m not demanding or looking for anything extravagant. Cooking is cheaper, tastier, and warmer than casually ordering Uber Eats. Besides, I live in a rural area where Uber Eats isn’t even available. That said, when I eat out with my papa (a male supporter), I look forward to enjoying food I can’t make myself.)
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By “average,” I assume they mean the financial sensibilities of people with ordinary jobs. In other words, most Universe staff members are working people in their 20s or 30s, so the benchmark is probably whether they themselves would find it unusual.
So I don’t think the class matters.
Besides, class has nothing to do with the allowance or with someone’s financial sensibilities. More broadly, I don’t think a woman’s desired allowance has anything to do with her financial sensibilities, either.
Are you unable to judge the value of your relationship with your partner unless someone else determines it for you through a class system?
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