I understand that with Type B women, an adult relationship (intimate) is generally only a possibility from the second meeting onward.
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However, if we meet, hit it off, the atmosphere feels right, and I really want to ask from the very first meeting, I end up asking, “How would you feel about it now?” Is this against the rules?
Some women do agree, though. In the end, does it just depend on the woman?
It depends on the person, just like approaching around 1,000 women might eventually result in having sex with one of them.
If she’s someone you’d like to see again, she’s probably Type B to begin with, so there’s a risk of things ending right there.
Since you chose Type B, why not just put up with it once?
I only make offers to Type C, though, so what do I know?
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Based on my own experience as someone with Dating Type B, I wouldn’t recommend accepting an invitation to an adult relationship from the very first meeting…
I’ve been invited before, but I only said yes once or twice when the terms were exceptionally good. The rest left me with nothing but a disappointing impression.
If you absolutely want to ask, there’s probably also the four-hour rule that day, so I’d suggest simply making the allowance and other terms clear, then meeting again the following day.
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Women choose their relationship type very carefully when they join.
“Will I still get offers if I choose B?”
“Maybe I won’t get any offers unless I choose C?”
“Would I get even more offers with D?”
But having an adult relationship (intimate) on the very first day is impossible for me, no matter how I think about it. If I can have dinner, get to know someone, and then decide, I’m okay with getting fewer offers.
Well, I’d prefer to get lots of offers, of course. But since I can’t do that from the first day, I’ll choose B even if it means sacrificing some offers.
That’s how many women make their choice.
There are also women who say, “I’d be okay with C, but I hear it’s difficult to turn down people I don’t like. They say things like, ‘If you chose C, why are you refusing? What’s the problem? Come on, it’s fine…’ So I’ll choose B.”
In the case of the former group, inviting them to an adult relationship is completely out of line. They chose B even though it would mean receiving fewer offers, so what do you mean by inviting them anyway?
If everyone invites women to an adult relationship on the first day, then there’s no point in choosing a relationship type at all. I think it’s perfectly natural for them to feel that way.
Are you the kind of person who thinks it would be better not to have relationship types at all?
That way, women would receive the same number of offers whether they chose type A or D, and they could feel more at ease.
You mean it would be better to meet someone first and then say, “Actually, I’m dinner only (no intimacy)—teehee,” right?
Some women would have more opportunities if there were no relationship types. And when turning down someone they don’t like, they could simply say, “I only do dinner with you,” even if they had gone to a hotel with other men that same day.
The club wouldn’t have to deal with complaints either, since there would be no relationship types.
Ignoring a woman’s chosen relationship type when inviting her is essentially the same thing.
In reality, though, I think more men prefer having relationship types. If that’s how you feel, then please approach women according to their chosen type.
I also wish men who ignore a woman’s relationship type themselves would stop accusing women of “relationship-type fraud” when they act differently from the type they chose.
If you follow the rules yourself, then you have the right to point it out when a woman doesn’t. That’s how it should work, in my opinion.
Although, truly gentlemanly men don’t call it “relationship-type fraud” in the first place.
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Some people choose B to be on the safe side because C scares them, and there are also women who lean more toward A than B, so I guess it depends on how each of you feels things out…
If he thinks your ability to create a lovely atmosphere is wonderful♡, it seems like things could work out, right? ((φ(>ω<*)
Oh, Makeo-san! Awawa and Nana-san are waiting in the wings too~ "(∩>ω<∩)"
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It depends on the woman, but considering the risks for you, I think it would be better to leave it alone.
I’m a Type B, so I’ll share my perspective, but some women don’t want to be invited to an adult relationship from the very first meeting.
That said, it can also be unsettling when you aren’t courted at all and the next meeting isn’t discussed specifically—you may start wondering whether he’s actually interested in you.
I do wish papas would handle things smoothly and draw out how the woman feels.
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Mr. Makeotoko,
So you got the OK! And has this happened to you before? I’m sorry—I didn’t realize…
I’d like to talk with you as a person, not about anyone else, so please contact me if you don’t mind.
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I’ve had a Type B woman invite me to an adult relationship on the very first day, but I’ve never been the one to initiate it.
**Update**
Early, I just got word from the club that it’s been approved. I wonder if they’d seen the question box. I couldn’t understand why it had been approved before but was rejected this time, so I’m relieved to get the approval notice. At least I now know I didn’t violate any rules.
That said, involving a third party could cause them trouble, so if you ever happen to feel like it, please request a letter date with me. (A mysterious invitation.)
Since I’m a blacklisted member, maybe the club would set up a letter date if I paid them ¥50,000? Who knows, lol.
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As you said, it really depends on the woman.
I’ve also had times when, while having dinner together, I got the feeling that it might be okay to ask her, so I did.
I can’t rule out the possibility that some women may have felt unable to turn the offer down…
But it’s all about reading the situation. If you’re not confident in that, I think it’s better not to try.
When you want to start dating someone, you usually get to know her and build a relationship first, then confess your feelings. If you do that, you’re less likely to be rejected.
It’s the same thing here.
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Just to be safe, I think it’s better not to.
Even if you’re thrilled that she agreed the first time around, she may have been thinking, “I said yes because I felt awkward turning him down, but I actually would’ve preferred next time… Maybe he’s a little too pushy.” That’s the risk with option B.
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The fact that some women agreed suggests that others did not. If that’s the case, I think it would be better not to ask on the first meeting.
If you get turned down and feel hurt, that’s your responsibility, so I have no issue with that. But I don’t think it’s right for B-type girls—who choose that option because they don’t want to make that decision on the first meeting—to end up feeling uncomfortable.
That said, if the mood picks up and you can tell that the other person feels the same way, I think it can happen even on the first meeting.
I’ve had situations like that before, but I’ve never been turned down, and the relationships have continued with everyone rather than ending after just one meeting. So I believe my judgment hasn’t been wrong so far.
Sorry if this comes across as hurtful.
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Hello, Business Dinner.
I don’t think it breaks any rules, but it is rather bad manners. You’re not a teenage animal, so please have the patience to wait that long.
If she’s comfortable with it, she’ll let you know herself that meeting today is fine.
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Whether it’s a Type B or Type A arrangement, you should work on becoming better at sensing when the mood is building and it feels like, “Shall we go?”
If you’re both in that kind of mood, you shouldn’t get turned down even on the first day. You don’t need to ask, “What do you think?” Instead, try asking about her feelings and intentions with something like, “What should we do now—or where should we go?” or “Shall we go now?” Make sure she feels comfortable mentioning any later plans she may have.
And—
You have to build things up to the point where she feels a special connection and becomes interested enough to want it too.
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Your whole idea of “getting consent” is misguided.
As Airi says, when two people like each other enough to want to date, things naturally develop that way—and continue.
And if things are genuinely continuing, you don’t need to ask for “consent.”
Since women are the ones receiving an allowance, it’s difficult for them to refuse unless they really don’t want to.
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I’ll assume you seem like a decent person and answer on that basis.
The fact that some women agree means there are also some who don’t, right? If one of those women who didn’t agree gives you feedback saying, “I really hated being invited from the first meeting even though it was a B,” or “It was uncomfortable because he was so pushy,” it seems like a waste.
There’s nothing in the rules that explicitly says you can’t ask from the first meeting, so ultimately it depends on the woman. But if you want to play it safe, I think you should only do it with women who say themselves, “I’m okay with it today.”
Marika
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