Even if it’s for the money, isn’t it an incredibly high hurdle for a woman in her 20s to be intimate with a man in his 60s unless she’s really unusual? Thinking about it the other way around, when I was in my 20s, I think being with a woman in her 60s would have been physically impossible no matter how much money I was offered.
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When I think about it that way, I imagine that women involved in papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) must either have a few screws loose, be exceptionally mentally strong, be obsessed with money, or have wildly unconventional preferences or ethics. But are there actually any ordinary women among them?
I assume the male members in their 60s who are still going strong are all either rich or sex-obsessed monsters, though (lol).
Are you jealous?
Rich sex-obsessed monsters can sleep with beautiful women in their twenties all they want.
What exactly is “normal,” anyway? People aren’t robots, so there’s no standard human mold—we’re all different.
And asking pointless questions like this here isn’t exactly normal either. (lol)
You’re free to think that way if you want.
But one undeniable fact is that there are papas in their sixties at this club who are having a great time.
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Universe Club Customer Success representative Karasaki here.
It really depends on what you consider “normal,” but around this time of year, we often interview first-year female college students who have just moved to Tokyo from the countryside.
To people who don’t do papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), those who do it may seem abnormal. But from the perspective of someone who does papa-katsu, they might think it’s strange not to do it when you can receive this much money.
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I’m pretty mentally tough, so I can handle it.
I probably have a few screws loose too. Otherwise, I don’t think I could’ve made money this way.
But I’ve never thought that about any of the girls I’m seeing.
I do think guys who assume women in papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) are mentally tough and then fail to treat them like gentlemen can go to hell, though.
If you’re the boyfriend of a woman doing papa-katsu, I’m sorry—I take it back.
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> When you think about it that way, you’d imagine that women doing papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) must either be completely unhinged, incredibly mentally strong, obsessed with money, or have wildly unconventional preferences and ethics. But are there actually any ordinary women among them?
Of course there are.
I don’t know what you consider “ordinary,” and maybe my own sense of normal isn’t typical either, but by your standards, I suppose there simply aren’t any “ordinary” women.
If you think their preferences or ethics are wildly unconventional, then I guess that’s how you see it.
So what? It’s an unbelievably pointless question—or opinion, I’m not even sure which.
You’re probably not a member, but why are you even asking this?
Makes no sense.
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When I was in my twenties, I was obsessed with money. Whether it was a Santarō or anyone else—even a 90-year-old woman—if the opportunity came up, I could be intimate with her.
There might even be some wonderful 90-year-olds out there.
You need that kind of determination to save up hundreds of millions of yen.
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Apparently there’s mama-katsu now too, haha. I was busy when I was younger, so I didn’t even know the term papa-katsu existed.
I’d say I’m a pretty average woman, though〜
Once you’re in your 30s, even men in their 50s or 60s can just feel like normal older boyfriends. They have plenty of life experience, are more even-tempered, and come across as attractive.
On the other hand, I’m actually more uncomfortable with younger male members.
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With questions like this, people often lump everyone into age groups—like “people in their 60s” or “people in their 20s”—then force their own theories onto the situation and go on about how something is wrong. It’s really shallow and doesn’t hit the mark at all, lol.
At the end of the day, we’re talking about people. Age is just one factor, and relationships aren’t something that can be determined that simply.
I’m sure the person asking the question has their own feelings about it. I can understand having those feelings, but I find it scary that they chose to write them here—including whatever motivated them to do so, lol.
That’s basically no different from someone with no experience who doesn’t understand—or even try to understand—other people’s feelings and just wants to impose their own views, lol. Aren’t men like that generally disliked?
Aren’t you scared that what you’re saying is essentially, “I’m just like those people”?
But what do I know, lol.
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If by “normal” you mean the majority, then ordinary young women neither can nor would be with men in their 60s. If, by some chance, there are young women who genuinely like men in their 60s, they wouldn’t see it as “sleeping with a man in his 60s = getting paid,” so they wouldn’t go to a dating club. They’d find someone privately.
If you truly want to meet a woman in her 20s who likes men in their 60s, your only option would be to meet someone privately, without money involved. If you’re a man, I honestly don’t understand why you’re on a dating club in the first place.
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Sorry to talk business, but it’s precisely because I’ve bowed my head to people I didn’t even want to bow to, prostrated myself before people I hated enough to die, licked their shoes, and swallowed their testicles to claw my way up that I’m now in a position to offer generous allowances.
Thanks to that, I don’t think twice about paying around ¥150,000 per pay-per-meeting arrangement, and these days I never have to bow my head to anyone in business. The only people I bow to are papa-katsu girls and men’s esthe girls. They’re willing to spend time with a filthy old man like me, so the least I can do is show them respect.
Since I don’t need to bow to anyone in business or to other men, I deliberately let people try to assert their dominance over me, then grin up at the idiots doing it while I watch from below. What a spectacular view. ♡
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As the questioner themselves put it, “being held,” there are differences in male and female physiology. Men generally need some kind of trigger to become aroused. Being able to get aroused anytime, anywhere is a sort of talent.
So, while men who can sleep with women over 40 are probably rare, women who can sleep with men over 40 aren’t all that uncommon.
I often hear women say, “I thought I might be able to with this person, so I gave it a try—and it was fine.”
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> When you put it that way,
Are you perhaps a virgin if you think men and women see things the same way?
Or maybe someone from the early Showa era somehow traveled through time to get here?
First, I think you should realize that ranting on this message board isn’t going to change anything. On dating apps and similar services—not dating clubs—there are dozens of times more men and women than on dating clubs.
There are platforms with:
10 million members
6 million members
5 million members
4 million members
2 million members
That’s 27 million members among just the top five.
Some overseas apps have even been downloaded more than 340 million times.
What the questioner finds strange is actually just that they’ve been left behind by the times. In other words, the questioner is gradually becoming the one who’s out of touch.
I think you should try looking at the world from a broader perspective.
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A man might not be able to deal with a 60-year-old woman 30 or 40 years older than him, even if she offered him 100 million yen.
But some women are willing to marry or date someone 30 or 40 years older than them for free.
Some, anyway.
At the end of the day, even if you offered a man 100 million yen, he still couldn’t be with someone he disliked—even if she were 30 years younger. Since men are the ones paying, papa-katsu only works with someone they actually want to give money to.
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I’m 35 myself, and it hasn’t even been a year since I joined.
So unfortunately, I can’t really understand how young women in their 20s—or especially their teens—feel about doing papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan). Of course, some people may genuinely need the money, but I can’t help thinking, “There must be other ways, right?!”
That said, there’s clearly demand for younger women, so I think it’s fine if they’re comfortable with it. It’s their responsibility, after all.
And I don’t think everyone is doing this unwillingly. If they don’t like something, they can say no, so I don’t think they should force themselves.
I’m sure some people are enjoying their arrangements, too. So I believe there are plenty of perfectly ordinary people involved as well.
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