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Mar 23, 2022 11:26
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The quality of men’s esthetic massage customers is pretty bad; many seem to already have STIs. And regulars who approach the women about dating play around with all kinds of massage providers, so STIs spread quickly.
By the way, even when regular customers are approached about dating, older guys won’t go for it unless the woman is unpopular. That’s probably why they think there are women who keep things strictly professional, too.
This is just my guess, but if Mr. Loser’s relationship negotiations seemed likely to succeed, I think he must actually be young, not bad-looking, and wealthy.
Of course, I’m sure Mr. Loser understood what men’s esthetic massage parlors are like, too—but there are a lot of women like this. So why does he write so much about them? What’s his goal? I brought this up in my question because I don’t want STIs spreading through dating clubs any more than necessary.
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Age: Private
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What you wrote is spot-on.
I used to work at a men’s esthetic salon as well (you can check my column), so I know what goes on behind the scenes for therapists.
Therapists generally don’t go on dates with customers—especially the popular ones…
That said, winning over an exceptionally beautiful woman like that often comes down to one chance, the very first meeting, in any kind of relationship. Becoming a regular and showing up at the salon as a generous (well-paying) papa doesn’t mean she’s interested at all—you’re simply misunderstanding the situation.
And not just with men’s esthetic salons, getting a date within the first one or two meetings is practically essential. The more beautiful she is, the more people assume she’s unattainable, so she can actually be a good target.
> Mac-san
When you say men who “hunt” at men’s esthetic salons, do you mean they’re trying to win over an A-type woman at a dating club—someone who’s harder to win over than a C- or D-type? They might be fairly attractive, sophisticated older men, but they don’t have what it takes to approach a beautiful woman on the street and hit it off with her, right?
Exactly.
And also:
> Young women who need money but don’t want an intimate relationship
I see. In any world, there really are people operating on an entirely different level.
🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s
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The best part of a men’s esthetic salon is the teasing that stops just short of the line. Even if you simply enjoy that kind of borderline massage, it makes the experience worthwhile.
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I think the same thing can happen anywhere, so in the end, the people involved just have to be careful.
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
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I had no idea what women working at men’s esthetic salons were really like.
The woman I see regularly is a very serious person. When I tried to give her ¥10,000 afterward, saying, “I had such a great time,” she politely declined, saying, “No, no, it’s okay.” She’s the top earner at the salon.
*Some women do accept a post-session tip with a smile.*
Apparently, she often gets approached about papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), but she had turned them all down. However, she seems to like me, and it feels as though things may actually progress.
I’m a “supporter who helps women grow,” so I make suggestions that could turn my favorite woman’s life around. Rather than simply pushing for an adult relationship (intimate), I talk to her about opportunities to get ahead as a businesswoman.
In other words, it’s a generous (well-paying) allowance plus something extra. I suppose you could say I have a particular hobby—or quirk—of getting women who aren’t motivated by money to make a move.
I don’t really have an ulterior motive. If I’m going to answer questions, I feel I need to keep readers interested, so lately I’ve been talking about men’s esthetic salons.
I’m also trying to charm the staff member assigned to me at a beautiful-women’s stretching studio. In short, I’m a truly awful man and an enemy of women. That said, I’ll do whatever it takes to improve the lives of the women I date, and I won’t hold back when it comes to supporting them.
Update:
Paper Airplane is right. Basically, I win over almost every woman on the first date. There is no second chance. Even with Type A women, if they end up falling for me on the second or third date, they must have actually fallen for me on the first date. It’s not something you can achieve simply by repeatedly going back. As for the salon’s star therapist, my impression is that she fell for me on the first visit too.
By the way, you shouldn’t openly hit on them. Instead, you set things up so that the woman ends up asking you out. All you do is wait. I’m simply waiting for the star therapist to suggest dating me. The groundwork was finished during the first visit.
I’ll make the final push myself so I don’t hurt her pride, though.
But since this seems to make people uncomfortable, I won’t continue discussing what happens with this therapist.
For reference, expensive men’s esthetic salons can charge ¥60,000 for 90 minutes. I’m planning to go to one soon. I’m sure there are even more expensive places if you look.