I’m the person who asked the question about “looking for a pure and innocent woman.”
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Thank you all for your many answers!
I’m sorry if that last unnecessary sentence came across as sarcastic, but I was simply asking out of genuine curiosity.
Marika, Mac, and Aya in particular, thank you for the specific examples.
Papuwa, thank you as well for answering even my detailed questions. It seems you’ve really built up quite a lot of resentment toward the countryside, lol.
Question 2
Do people who like that kind of genre in AV genuinely believe, deep down, that the actresses are pure and innocent?
Or do they simply see them as women who look plain and are good at acting inexperienced and naive?
That would surprise me too. After all, there’s a male performer involved in AV, right?
Once she gets to her second or third production, wouldn’t they start saying, “She’s a slut! This isn’t what I was told!”? I assume that hardcore fans who spend a lot of money understand that the actresses only have a pure and innocent image… but do they instead think, “She’s discovered the pleasure of sex!”?
Also, if this applies to AV as well, does “pure and innocent,” as they use the term, sometimes mean women who have no—or very little—sexual experience?
It seems like there would be plenty of women like that in the Black class: beautiful women who have only ever been with their boyfriends. Or is that not really the case?
Question 3
Dai, what kind of women are you actually talking about?
>Women who normally wouldn’t come to a dating club, I suppose.
What kind of life would someone have to lead, what kind of job would she have, and how would she have to conduct herself for you to think that she normally wouldn’t come here?
From your perspective, would office workers, flight attendants, and civil servants all seem like the kind of women who would ordinarily come here?
Do you mean someone who was loved by her parents, had plenty of money spent on her, and grew up without wanting for anything?
Someone attending or having graduated from a prestigious university with high entrance standards?
Aren’t there actually quite a few women like that?
Please give us some specific examples.
Beautiful women in the Black class get offers from lots of people and have plenty of papas.
> Are they people who were loved by their parents and raised with plenty of money, never wanting for anything?
> Are they attending or have they graduated from a prestigious university with high entrance scores?
Even I fit those descriptions fairly well, haha.
Marika
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I’m Kazu, a male member.
You’re the person who asked this question, right?
https://universe-club.jp/help/questions/view/8773
I found the entire post, not just the last sentence, to come across as sarcastic.
In modern Japan, women have been taught an extremely strong sense of chastity based on Christian values. On top of that, the postwar Japanese-style socialism—the illusion of a society without inequality or class divisions—means that genuine financial hardship doesn’t feel like a reality to many people.
Furthermore, men cannot get an erection without sexual arousal, which makes sex with someone they aren’t attracted to extremely difficult.
Personally, when I was a university student, I experienced a complete collapse of my values after seeing a rowdy older man I knew surrounded by female students from my university, proudly saying, “I’m going to a hotel with this one now.”
She was in a different faculty, so I didn’t know her, but for a man around twenty, realizing that a familiar young woman from the same community was having sex with an older man for an allowance was a shocking experience.
I think every man gradually loses the various fantasies he holds about women through one experience or another. But people who haven’t had the opportunity to go through such experiences probably continue holding on to those fantasies.
Since this isn’t something people often talk about, it’s certainly possible for someone to grow older without ever having a chance to revise those assumptions.
Using a dating club might help correct them, but that man doesn’t seem to be a member. And even if someone uses a dating club, they may not change their views if they only date women who put on an act, or if they consciously avoid thinking about it.
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I’m Dai, a male member.
The woman I felt that way about had been loved and well provided for by her parents, and had grown up wanting for nothing.
She said that after her family’s business took a downturn during COVID, she decided to pay her own tuition and signed up with the club.
I may have been deceived, but I became curious and thought I’d offer 60,000 yen or more if it meant being her first experience.
She ended up leaving the club almost immediately after her parents found out… (The reason she gave the club when providing feedback was the same.)
So, as a basic requirement for women who normally wouldn’t come to a dating club, I’d say they shouldn’t have any experience in sex work, the nightlife industry, or papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan).
Among those women, perhaps they’re the ones who had an unavoidable need for an allowance and felt they had no choice but to start.
I don’t think their occupation or university matters.
For example, there are plenty of sex workers enrolled at prestigious universities with high entrance standards.
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I’m a losing male member.
If there were a woman who was completely pure and innocent, she might be the reincarnation of Mother Teresa.
I believe that human beings all carry some dark thoughts somewhere inside them.
That said, I’m the kind of person who wants to see the good in others, so as long as the women I date remain pure and innocent while they’re with me, that’s enough for me.
My ace girl is exactly like that. She definitely has a darker side—she’s human, after all.
But I choose to focus only on the purity and innocence she shows me, and enjoy our relationship thinking:
“She really is such a good girl.”
I honestly want her to deceive me skillfully. I want her to let me stay in the dream.
Sorry, I know this doesn’t really answer the question.
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