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Aug 29, 2021 16:33
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About three months ago, a staff member asked me via LINE if they could include in my profile that I’m married... Where was that written? I’m pretty sure I was told during the interview that my marital status wouldn’t be listed.
I don’t understand why they brought it up later, or why, when so many people avoid married women. Isn’t the whole point for Universe staff to get us offers from men? Back in 2018, President Kida wrote that they wouldn’t list whether someone was married or single, so I’m completely distrustful now.
They even contacted me with an offer meant for someone else the other day. What is going on? Whenever I complain to the staff, they lower my class or stop recommending me. I’m honestly worried it’s going to destroy my mental health.
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🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m in Seattle.
Maybe some branches include it while others don’t.
Personally, I’m single and unemployed, so I wouldn’t be too concerned even if I got sued. Whether someone is married doesn’t really matter to me.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
Maezawa from the president’s office here.
This is slightly off-topic from your question, but regarding:
> About three months ago, a staff member asked me on LINE if it was okay to mention in my profile that I’m married…
I looked into it, and it seems the exchange went something like:
“Would that be okay?”
“Yes, that’s fine.”
So, if you weren’t comfortable with it, you could have declined. Even saying something like, “I’d rather it not be included in my profile…” would have been perfectly fine.
Also, if you now feel that you’d prefer it not to be listed, you could try saying:
“When you previously asked if it was okay to mention my marriage on the members-only page, I said yes, but I’ve changed my mind. Would it be possible to remove it from my profile?”
I think it would be worth asking.
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Dai, a male member.
Universe Club is a company that changes a lot, for better or worse.
I recently moved from Black to Gold and found out that, although I was able to ask the staff about women by email two years ago, that’s no longer possible now.
(It may have been that email inquiries weren’t actually allowed even back then, and it was just how that branch handled things…)
Early on, I once unknowingly made an offer to a married woman, but we still occasionally stay in touch. (We live far apart, so our schedules haven’t lined up and we haven’t been able to meet…)
Still, if I’d known in advance, I might have avoided making the offer to prevent any trouble.
Other
I’m Ayase Nana ♡
Date ◎ Yume,
Thank you for your comment.
Because of the kind of work I used to do, I tend to notice and deal with even the smallest things. But I don’t get angry over minor issues.
I’m just a little eccentric, haha.
About three months ago, I think a staff member said something in a LINE comment that made me think, “Huh?” When I pressed them about it on LINE, I believe they suddenly said, “But you’re married.”
Was it just out of spite?
I’m not seeing anyone right now.
They were all so pushy about having unprotected sex… I didn’t want to get an STD, so I said goodbye.
Right now, I’m waiting for a reply from someone who was kind and didn’t insist on that. I wonder if he’s forgotten about me? We exchange LINE messages every day, though…
Date ◎ Yume, it sounds like your first offer was from someone unpleasant. You did the right thing by ending it, since continuing would only cause trouble for other men.
Makeo,
Nice to meet you. I’m Ayase Nana ♡
Thank you for your comment. Maybe I should have just said I was divorced… Now that I think about it, he never asked me to bring a copy of my family register. I was too honest.
I do intend to get divorced, and I’m already making preparations.
If I can have a stable job and a wonderful papa (a male supporter), I’m sure I’ll be able to live with more peace of mind.
♡ So you liked that heart, did you? Thank you. I’ll use the heart again.
♡ I don’t think that applies to me, since I didn’t write that I’m married on my own page. It says “Q&A respondent Ayase Nana,” after all(笑)
P.S. 3: I wish everyone had as generous a heart as Makeo… But it’s okay. I’ll be getting divorced eventually anyway ♪
Dai,
Thank you for your comment.
I wonder if things have changed. I’m waiting for a comment from the staff, but maybe they’ve been told not to get involved? It’s sad.
I’ll let you know once I’m divorced.
Maezawa, thank you as always for everything.
I’ll ask you on LINE tomorrow to delete it, but several months have already passed, and even if it’s deleted now, I think many people already know about it. It’s too late.
I suppose this is how women end up leaving.
I’m sorry. It’s not your fault, Maezawa.
Papuwa,
Thank you for your comment.
I’m becoming more and more distrustful… There’s no point getting too angry, I suppose. All I can do is hope the staff will delete it tomorrow.
Seattle,
Thank you as always.
You already meet all of my terms, don’t you? I always wish I could cut in and take your place.
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m a male member who’s basically on the losing end. I’m also a blacklisted member.
① Unless the woman herself requests it, whether she’s married or not isn’t shown in the profile that male members can view.
② If the male member is blacklisted, and he asks, “Is this woman married?” the club will answer in coded language, such as, “She’s someone who helps with housework,” so you can more or less figure out that she’s married.
I believe those were the rules, though they may differ by branch.
Even if you ask again, “Does ‘someone who helps with housework’ mean she’s married?” they’ll only reply, “She’s someone who helps with housework.”
Even though it’s indirect—since things become free romance after the arrangement—the club is walking a dangerously fine line where it could potentially be accused of aiding infidelity. So I assume the club can’t directly tell male members that a woman is married.
Anyway, setting that irrelevant point aside, the solution would probably be to tell the club:
“I’m divorced.”
Even if that were a lie, the club has no choice but to take what you say at face value.
In other words, if the woman has told the club that she’s married, then when a blacklisted member makes an inquiry, the club has no choice but to answer in coded language. So telling the club that you’re divorced would probably be the smoothest approach.
That said, I assume you’re actually angry because President Kida said that marital status wouldn’t be displayed, yet the rules seem to have changed at some point without notice. And I think that’s completely understandable. I really sympathize with how you feel.
For what it’s worth, I searched by keyword in the male members’ admin interface and found at least several women whose profiles list them as married at their own request. I also found around 30 women listed as married, although I couldn’t tell whether that was at their own request.
P.S. I was a secret fan because the way Ayase Nana used to start with “I’m Ayase Nana♡” was so cute. I feel a little sad that it changed to “I’m Ayase Nana☆.”
P.P.S. I found a profile that might belong to her, and it says “married” at the end. I hope it isn’t actually her profile, and I think the club should remove that wording. She clearly doesn’t want it there.
P.P.P.S. There were two women I suspected might be married, but I never confronted either of them about it. I believe every woman has one or two secrets she can’t—or doesn’t want to—tell anyone, and that a papa’s job is to understand that and gently embrace her anyway.
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Date◎Yume, a male member.
Haha(笑)
Once you’re over twenty, you shouldn’t get worked up over every little thing. You’ll end up with fine lines between your eyebrows.
I think “married” is probably mentioned in the staff comments, though I’m not sure if that applies to everyone.
Personally, I don’t mind making offers to married women at all. The first person I made an offer to was a married woman in her mid-thirties.
However, she quit the club two or three days after we met. All I remember is her complaining to me nonstop. I didn’t really understand what she was trying to say because she was being so indirect. I just thought, “You’re already in your mid-thirties—come on, you’re old enough to say it more clearly…”(笑)
I don’t know much about the different classes, but maybe it’s best to think of them as giving you more opportunities to meet people…?(笑)
As you’ve probably already realized, the number of ongoing relationships is far more important than the number of new encounters. If you maintain your relationships, it’s practically the same as guaranteed offers coming your way within a certain period of time.